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 100 Posts Member #: 4826 Advanced Member Isleworth |
17th Jul, 2011 at 04:28:27pm
i'd well be up for the rr session
Edited by racer_pete on 17th Jul, 2011. |
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1425 Posts Member #: 690 Post Whore Norfolk |
17th Jul, 2011 at 04:49:26pm
As number 13 has passed........
If Carling made Mini engines
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 8215 Posts Member #: 90 Post Whore Somewhere around Swindon |
17th Jul, 2011 at 05:04:49pm
Time and money are agaist me here my car will never be ready for oct 2012 let alone this year Crystal Sound Audio said:
Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead ! "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."-Douglas Adams |
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 9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
17th Jul, 2011 at 05:06:38pm
What's the issue Robert? Will it be as spurious as last years results?
On 17th Jul, 2011 robert said:
love to go, but not on a dd dyno im afraid . nms is not far ?(and a much better losses calculation.) Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 207 Posts Member #: 9045 Senior Member Wolverhampton, West Midlands |
17th Jul, 2011 at 05:08:23pm
I might pop along to specatate, maybe in the mini (n/a 1310) |
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 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
17th Jul, 2011 at 06:18:28pm
Glad to hear that Johnk :)
Yes i moved to the darkside |
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306 Posts Member #: 7107 Senior Member essex |
17th Jul, 2011 at 06:31:24pm
ill be up for spectating and the camping at the pod |
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 3329 Posts Member #: 184 Senior Member Melton Mowbray, Pie Country |
17th Jul, 2011 at 06:32:54pm
If the TT3-BS is finished I will come along. It is too soon to commit at the moment. http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
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 1745 Posts Member #: 375 Post Whore Leicestershire |
17th Jul, 2011 at 06:33:15pm
Would be a shame to miss this i will have to see how the rebuild comes on. |
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Forum Mod  4823 Posts Member #: 154 Post Whore Midlands |
17th Jul, 2011 at 07:48:22pm
On 20th Oct, 2015 Tom Fenton said:
Well here is the news, you are not welcome here, FUCK OFF. |
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 4890 Posts Member #: 1775 Post Whore Chester |
17th Jul, 2011 at 10:08:24pm
Balls I'm away this weekend.. Would have loved to seen my car against some of the turbo 998s. Would have been good to see the difference. I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
17th Jul, 2011 at 10:45:32pm
I could be up for this. Im keen to know what power im running now.
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 824 Posts Member #: 2065 Post Whore Wiltshire |
18th Jul, 2011 at 08:39:45am
On 7th Nov, 2011 apbellamy said:
Shaft seems nice and snug On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
no no no no, you need more boost! you can never ever come on here and say I have enough boost, that's just silly. On 29th Mar, 2010 Star Mag said:
these give no problems with good head |
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 263 Posts Member #: 40 Really Very Very Advanced 'Member' Stratford upon Avon |
18th Jul, 2011 at 08:42:15am
i am very much keen for this after missing the last one.
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 10020 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
18th Jul, 2011 at 09:05:18am
Edited as you missed Almichie out. If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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10020 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
18th Jul, 2011 at 09:06:16am
No rush yet Matty.
On 17th Jul, 2011 matty said:
I could be up for this. Im keen to know what power im running now. When do we need to give a definite answer? If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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 338 Posts Member #: 1911 Senior Member Swindon |
18th Jul, 2011 at 10:07:51am
Shall I bring mine again this time with the fueling sorted? |
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 6549 Posts Member #: 1149 #1 Basshunter Fan Force Racing ICT Dept Manager Miglia Turbo Am frum Yokshyer tha noes! |
18th Jul, 2011 at 10:20:05am
John i should have been on the list from the start boyo!
1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.
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10020 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
18th Jul, 2011 at 10:39:53am
Right. As we have quite enough interest this will definately go ahead.
If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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 6743 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
18th Jul, 2011 at 10:42:37am
On 17th Jul, 2011 wil_h said:
What's the issue Robert? Will it be as spurious as last years results? On 17th Jul, 2011 robert said: love to go, but not on a dd dyno im afraid . nms is not far ?(and a much better losses calculation.) hmm good question wil, for me the interest in using a dyno is using it to reflect the engine design ,good or bad .the closer i can get to crank figures the more usefull it is for me . now the whole transmission losses question has been roiling around the dyno world for ages ,and everyone has thier own take on it . this is mine .. anything that uses a percentage to calculate losses is, to my mind ,totally illogical . it is ok for comparative testing,up to a point ,but how does it cope with the tyres getting hotter on the 5th run ,and absorbing more power? the bhp read will go down ,and the losses will go down ,so the total will vary ....with no change to actual engine power. for trying to get close to crank power its a lottery ,sometimes the figures will add up sometimes they wont . the dd rr and i think dynopak ,use around 19% addition for losses ,plus some other stuff they seem on the rr forums to be a bit evasive about . the overall impression i get is we wont completely explain it all ,because if we do you will see its not based on logic . the other way to do losses is to coast down after the run, and measure the resistance ,compared with nothing ,on the rollers and add that to the wheel power ..now this opens up another can of worms .does the coast down make sense? having calibrated rolling rds that use this system ,i can tell you it can be adjusted to make sense and also to make big losses, so the owner is happy with his 500 bhp 850 mini!(twin carb) in an attempt to work out what the lossses read on a 4 wheel drive rolling rd ,as i was convinced there was a problem on the rear set, i used my bike to run the rollers up to 70 mph and then deliberately pushed it off, i did this with both front and rear sets and proved the rear set had a bad bearing and was reading 6 bhp WITH NO LOAD ..max speed achieved later on at 12 at night was 125 mhp on the roller before launching it off . my personal experience with the tuning of engines on a coast down rr goes like this .. example 1) my turbo 500 bike showed 135 bhp at crank ,115 at wheel .i then sprayed wheel with glue and cinched it down a bit tighter ,i now had 98 bhp at wheel and 134 hhp at crank . the drag had been sensed by the rr and added to create a replication of crank power to withon 1% odd. if that had been a percentage rr after the strap down powwer would have dropped to 120 bhp odd! example 2) a formula one 1968 cooper ,3.1 v8 alfa engine ,had 280 bhp at 6500 ,10 bhp losses .so total 290 .with a dd type it would have had 333 bhp . this constantly measuring the losses can take into account all sorts of things that can affect each run . the reason its not so popular with a lot of dyno makers ,is , it takes a lot longer to do each run ,as you coast down ,and time is money . the quicker the runs go through ,the more turn over . it also tends to make much higher power figures ,so that makes the dyno popular with the customers . the superflow dyno at nms apparently uses a coast down on the first run ,then adds those losses to every run after ,so not as good as a coast down every time ,but much better than %. not sure if that helps wil but maybe a little bit :). regards robert. Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
18th Jul, 2011 at 10:49:26am
Totally helps. I think coast down is the best method.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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10020 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
18th Jul, 2011 at 12:30:33pm
As discussed via PM with Robert I would like people to make an informed decision on whether they would like to run, so I am pleased that he has posted to explain why he would prefer not to use a DD dyno.
If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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 3249 Posts Member #: 1194 Post Whore Shropshire. |
18th Jul, 2011 at 02:10:48pm
As you have 17 without me you might as well knock me off then - will take an age to get through that amount of cars as it is. |
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Forum Mod 4823 Posts Member #: 154 Post Whore Midlands |
18th Jul, 2011 at 03:10:14pm
I wouldn't drop out mark, you know how it goes with all turbo minis, that list of 17 will be down to 10 by the time October comes. I've had to drop out enough times myself, lol. On 20th Oct, 2015 Tom Fenton said:
Well here is the news, you are not welcome here, FUCK OFF. |
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8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
18th Jul, 2011 at 03:21:16pm
1. John (Turbo Clubman)
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