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4th Apr, 2005 at 12:30:10pm

Just grenaded my mpi cooper engine however the block is actually still in reasonable condition (i.e. it will be fine with a +20 rebore). I dont really want to put a 1293 mpi engine back in my cooper (I will just get a new one from somewhere).

If I decided to turbo the mpi block rather than rebuild the turbo engine I have sitting on the garage floor, Any ideas if I will have issues with emissions due to it being a modern a+ engine in a 1973 car? Also would there be any extra benifits in using an MPI block?


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4th Apr, 2005 at 12:36:06pm

The emissions test follows the engine not the car...

so long as you can prove its an old engine and the MOT tester agrees... you can have the test applicable to the ages of the engine!

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4th Apr, 2005 at 12:43:38pm

so If i put a mpi engine in a 1973 car then i have to have a cat and get it though what a 1998 car has to comply with then I have no hope. Bugger. So ive now got a 1275 paper weight. :(

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4th Apr, 2005 at 12:57:35pm

You'd expect so...

but if you dont tell the mot man... they go on the cars age !!

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4th Apr, 2005 at 12:59:59pm

do you want to sell your mpi inlet manifold, turbodave is looking for one

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4th Apr, 2005 at 01:01:04pm

Jim i still want to keep my cooper i will just be looking for another mpi engine to drop into it.

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4th Apr, 2005 at 02:24:13pm

If you find one, sell us a manifold to help re-coup the cost!!!

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4th Apr, 2005 at 04:08:49pm

If you decide to turbo the MPi block the main issue will be lack of distributor hole and drive, so you will have to run mapped ignition. As a plus point though, you will have the mountings for the smaller higher mounted alternator, so will be able to use the MPi front mounted radiator.


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5th Apr, 2005 at 12:18:33am

thought the MOT was based ont eh car OR engine, whichever is older...

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5th Apr, 2005 at 08:12:59am

On 04/04/2005 16:08:49 Tom Fenton said:
As a plus point though, you will have the mountings for the smaller higher mounted alternator, so will be able to use the MPi front mounted radiator.


Aren't these monts on the head, and not the block??? If so, you'd have to get a Mpi head to modify as well.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.

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5th Apr, 2005 at 08:24:07am

hmm yeah i think they are vegard I will have to have a look when i get home tonight.

Cheers for the input guys. I will just have to see if i can find another mpi engine 1st. Any ideas where to start looking *oh well*

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5th Apr, 2005 at 10:19:51am

I thought there were different mountings on the block as well?? But could be wrong is 4 years since I touched an MPi.......


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5th Apr, 2005 at 10:21:52am

The block might be different as well, But the main alternator mounts are on the head :)

Nothing is like a good mount on the head.

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Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.

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5th Apr, 2005 at 10:31:26am

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5th Apr, 2005 at 07:56:00pm

evolution is correct the emissions go on which ever is the older, but you will probably have to prove that the engine is older, and also show the MOT tester where in the rule book it says you can! (copy on line somewhere!!!)


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9th Apr, 2005 at 05:19:16pm

mpi block on ebay
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