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 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 05:31:50pm
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/183
On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it 
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 998 Posts Member #: 2178 Post Whore Leyland, Lancs |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 05:35:06pm
Done On 15th Jul, 2009 fastcarl said:
a breif struggle ensued but Will emerged the victor with a pair of undies in his possesion On 21st Sep, 2009 apbellamy said:
No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit... |
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288 Posts Member #: 6267 Senior Member Bristol |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 05:37:20pm
I'd sign it, only why is he petitioning for a rolling 30 year exemption, not 25 as it used to be? |
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 05:41:15pm
30 is better than nothing. Would make my car tax exempt On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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 2057 Posts Member #: 9252 Post Whore Cleethorpes |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 05:56:57pm
signed it Done now needs redoing lol |
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 460 Posts Member #: 843 Senior Member Stoke-on-Trent. Duck. |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 06:38:55pm
Signed. I believe the deal is that the if/ when an e-petition reaches 100,000 signatures, it becomes eligible for discussion in the House of Commons? doesn't mean it will get the law changed of course... |
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 665 Posts Member #: 9345 Post Whore Sheffield |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 06:46:30pm
I think it gets to a committee discussion about whether to have a discussion in the house of commons if it gets to 100000.. so not much hope at all really. I don't see any politician having the backbone to back tax exemption for what are seen as out of date polluting cars, no matter how much you tell them it's greener than making new ones..
On 2nd Sep, 2011 Pottsy said:
Signed. I believe the deal is that the if/ when an e-petition reaches 100,000 signatures, it becomes eligible for discussion in the House of Commons? doesn't mean it will get the law changed of course... |
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1226 Posts Member #: 9271 Post Whore Stoke on Trent |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 09:57:13pm
Ive signed, it would make mine exempt too. I dont know why they stopped, but just imagine if it did happen, you would have tax exempt nova's. Lol one day boost will be mine!
On 10th Mar, 2012 Joe C said:
TBH peple stick it everywhere... and theres merits to each... |
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 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
2nd Sep, 2011 at 10:12:18pm
done although i wouldn't benefit for a while Yes i moved to the darkside |
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6 Posts Member #: 9322 Junior Member |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 12:05:39am
Signed, don't ask don't get. |
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 160 Posts Member #: 1085 Advanced Member Netherlands |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 12:46:21am
In NL we've only had the cut-off date here for a few years now. Here the date is 1-1-1987, but already the classic car lobby seems to have a foot in the door. 1963 Cooper
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 2233 Posts Member #: 9037 Post Whore Doncaster, yorkshire |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 06:01:05am
Signed. Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs
On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:
Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble  |
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 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 06:33:51am
We already have this in Norway. It a rolling 30 year thing. |
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2233 Posts Member #: 9037 Post Whore Doncaster, yorkshire |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 06:54:55am
Signed Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs
On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:
Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble |
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 9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 07:35:50am
I don't understand why just because a car is old it should be exempt from road tax.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 (2)[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/150672766@N03/]Rod Sugden[/url], on Fli) 5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 08:14:31am
On 3rd Sep, 2011 wil_h said:
I don't understand why just because a car is old it should be exempt from road tax. The usual arguement is that it is an incentive to keep historic vehicles on the road rather than in static museums or simply scrapped (which is not environmentally friendly as older cars were not designed for recycling). It's a tenuous arguement especially as to what is "historic" (that's the actual word on the tax disc). On 3rd Sep, 2011 wil_h said:
If you use the road you pay for it, surely? Agreed - however, it's an even more tenuous arguement to suggest that we pay for the roads directly by road tax. It just goes to central government to get distrubuted how they feel fit. Road maintenance is generally paid for by local authorities (council tax and central government funds to the authorities) and road building schemes by central government whose major income is direct taxation (income tax and national insurance) and indirect taxation (VAT, fuel duty etc). For a "fair" system you need something that charges not just per mile but also pro-ratas it against the difference per vehicle (an HGV damages the road per mile much more than a Mini). Toll roads with a different rate per size/weight of vehicle is a popular way in the USA and parts of Europe but we've only got a few bridges/tunnels and one stretch of motorway where this is used in the UK. The other obvious way is to scrap road tax and increase fuel duty - fuel used is a good approximation of the maintenence costs of the road - but successive governments have been too scared to do it as the public believe it would never be done fairly. So, on that basis, I've signed the petition :) Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 08:46:19am
I'm happy to pay taxes, I can't see a better way to run a country.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 1183 Posts Member #: 6926 Post Whore Accrington |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 10:17:00am
signed it.
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 1648 Posts Member #: 9038 Post Whore Carlisle, Cumbria |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 10:23:41am
signed it, my fiesta is that for just 6 months johnny |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 12:01:45pm
WOW, £130 to be able to drive on thousands and thousands of miles of roads. Sound like a bargain to me. As above £130 is a very small % of what a car costs to run for 12 months.
On 3rd Sep, 2011 Johnny said:
signed it. you wont be happy to pay taxes when they put it up soo high you cant afford it!!! they will put it up a lot soon because they dont like classic cars. they think theyre a bad influence on the atmosphere. my tax has gone upto £130 for 12months on the mini... Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 12:50:31pm
The price for a post '73 classic over 1600cc is now £215 a year.
On 3rd Sep, 2011 wil_h said:
If you use the road you pay for it, surely? My view is pay for it fairly. People don't support paying taxes if they perceive them to be unfair. I actually agree with you that it shouldn't be something for nothing (even though my LandRover is tax exempt) but I still think the fairest way is fuel tax (done properly) as it is based on mileage and (loosely) damage to the roads by vehicle weight as heavier vehicles use more fuel. As for the "second car so not people who are strapped for cash" arguement, ie, those who can pay more than their fair share, should - that's another whole can of worms :) Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 01:11:19pm
On 3rd Sep, 2011 Rod S said:
The price for a post '73 classic over 1600cc is now £215 a year. For someone who uses it only a few days a year (second car, just to take to shows etc.) that is totally disproportionate. So, to an extent, you've countered your own point Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 01:31:42pm
On 3rd Sep, 2011 wil_h said:
Anyway, feel free to sign, it won't make a differance. Of course it won't :) But if you don't express your opinion, either on a forum like this, or a worthless ePetion, then there is no point in having an opinion 
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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 1451 Posts Member #: 328 Post Whore Seaford Rise, South Australia |
3rd Sep, 2011 at 01:50:39pm
Not signing. Why would I want you lot in my exclusive club!!! Lol! On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know |
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 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
5th Sep, 2011 at 12:07:02am
But the arguement could be made that, why should you pay £130 a year to drive a car that is no longer practical to do a lot of miles in on the modern roads? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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