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Gavin Wakely

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Now when speaking in terms of valves for all out power in a N/A format, the bigger the better aswell as quantity ie:16V.
But when we talk turbo, does this still stand ?
I do realise that big N/A power sacrafices low end power / torque, but in a turbo, the air is being forced in, more torque / power is produced compared to N/A lower down the rev range.
When you look into full on drag cars, valves irrespective of N/A or turbo or supercharged, they go BIG.

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Vegard

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Obviously the same applies. Bigges holes equals more power. The thing with turbocharging, is that there are several other ways to the same goal.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



Joe C

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as above really,

its woth noting that with big valves the gas speed lowers, so at overlap stuff can flow the otherway easier, this can be exagerated on turbo's due to exhaust pressure being higher than boost etc...

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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matty

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Would I be right in thinking that the valve area on a 16v head is far greater standard size, than the largest sized 5 port valves you could fit?

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Vegard

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On 3rd Oct, 2011 matty said:
Would I be right in thinking that the valve area on a 16v head is far greater standard size, than the largest sized 5 port valves you could fit?


Indeed.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



robert

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On 3rd Oct, 2011 Vegard said:



On 3rd Oct, 2011 matty said:
Would I be right in thinking that the valve area on a 16v head is far greater standard size, than the largest sized 5 port valves you could fit?


Indeed.


no.

36mm mini inlet 907.5mm2
27mm kad inlet 981.25mm2
37.59mm mini inlet 994.33 mm2
30.4mm kad inlet 1266mm2

so apart from the race ,not much in it .

Edited by robert on 3rd Oct, 2011.

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Vegard

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What if you add lift to the equation and get valve CURTAIN area?

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



Joe C

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then you throw cams into the equation... what lift, how fast etc.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Paul S

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I thought that throat area less stem area is the critical dimension. Where the velocity is the highest.

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