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Has anyone drawn a diagram of how to connect a water fed turbo to the standard cooling system? If so I would like some help with how you guys have set yours up please :)

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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Beachgrove Engineering 01525382968 Speak to Alan.

Tel him Josh gave you the number he is very familiar with my mini and is helping with my water system once I get my bits sorted

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<3 thank you

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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what I am doing is taking a feed from the drain plug on the bottom of the block near the "OIL" pump, feeding that through the turbo, and then back into a brass union I have soldered to the rad near the filler.

well spotted Colin, *tongue*

Edited by Joe C on 23rd Oct, 2011.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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On 23rd Oct, 2011 Joe C said:
what I am doing is taking a feed from the drain plug on the bottom of the block near the water pump


Have you got a picture of one of those?

*wink**happy*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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I've drilled out the coolant bung/plug to accept an 8mm straight brass union>then to the turbo>then returning into a metro thermostat housing [without the sandwich plate]

I've also drilled the pipe out to 6 or 6.5mm to aid the flow




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is the water feed to the turbo gravity fed or will it be forced through?

Cheers for replies so far guys :)

edit: by the 'coolant bung/plug' do you mean one of the core plugs?


Cheers

Edited by Craigie-B on 23rd Oct, 2011.

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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forced, otherwise it'll boil in the turbo.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



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On 23rd Oct, 2011 Craigie-B said:
is the water feed to the turbo gravity fed or will it be forced through?

Cheers for replies so far guys :)

edit: by the 'coolant bung/plug' do you mean one of the core plugs?


Cheers


What Joe really means, is the drain plug fitted to some (but not all) blocks, down the back of the near the oil pump. The blocks without the plug still have a protruding boss that can be drilled and tapped. In doing so, you are tapping into high pressure cool water. To ensure this water flows through the turbo, you need to drain the turbo coolant outlet into a low pressure part of the cooling system, and the top of the rad is as good a place as any.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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bingo!

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



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i think i have it wrong then...

here is how i have it

i have no heater, so the heater take off goes to the left side of the inlet manifold with i t piece in-between feeding water to the turbo also.

on the right hand side it goes out the inlet manifold, t-peice to turbo, and then connect to the bottom radiator pipe to the outlet let spout that comes half way up the rad. this is looking from the front of the engine...

is this totally wrong? the grease monkey that did it said that was the correct way. doubt he has a clue though


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You are still taking high pressure coolant from the heater circuit and putting it back into a low pressure area of the cooling system. The coolant might not be as cool as it would be if taken from the block, but it's hardly going to be a problem. One thing I wouldn't be too sure about though is if the thermo syphon effect would still work in this set up on heat soak, but there is a slim chance it will.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 25th Oct, 2011 Sprocket said:
One thing I wouldn't be too sure about though is if the thermo syphon effect would still work in this set up on heat soak, but there is a slim chance it will.


this went striaght over my head mate...lol anychance you could explain this...


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When you turn off the engine, the heat from the combustion chamber, the exhaust manifold, for example, drains into the rest of the engine. The common term for this is heat soak.

where the turbo is concerned, the turbo core is either cooled solely by the oil flow through it, or, in the case of the GT1752, is cooled by the engine coolant. This is great when the engine is running and coolant is being 'pumped' through the turbo. But when the engine is shut down there is no pressure difference in the coolant to create any flow through the turbo core. The turbo suffers heat soak like the engine and the careful orientation of the coolant inlet and coolant outlet positions can generate a thermo siphon. In simple terms, hot water rises, and hot flows to cold, so as the turbo experiences heat soak, the coolant sitting in it heats up, as it heats up, it starts a dynamic motion of hot coolant rising, drawing in with it cooler coolant, a thermo siphon.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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i see what you mean mate... thanks for the info*wink*


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Can you post pictures?


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On 25th Oct, 2011 gttalpine said:
Can you post pictures?


me?


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All good but the system advised for mine is a separate water system with it's own rad and pump this is to minimise the potential for the returning water to rerun as steam.

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On 26th Oct, 2011 Mr Joshua said:
All good but the system advised for mine is a separate water system with it's own rad and pump this is to minimise the potential for the returning water to rerun as steam.


So Car manufacturers are doing it all wrong? Me personally, I don't think so :)

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


Mr Joshua

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Like I said it was advised for mine.

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well whoever advised is wrong :)

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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The system described ( drain plug in block to turbo and return from turbo to rad header tank) works fine for me and I have no cooling issues or water loss - ever.


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In other words, could I simply replace my current heater with the turbo? So the heater take off goes straight into the turbo and the water outlet of the turbo connects to the hose which would lead the cooled water from the heater back into the engine?


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On 28th Oct, 2011 carred said:
In other words, could I simply replace my current heater with the turbo? So the heater take off goes straight into the turbo and the water outlet of the turbo connects to the hose which would lead the cooled water from the heater back into the engine?


thats how i have mine... but read sprockets posts above so your properly informed


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Sorry for thread ressurection,

Just going back to the metro thermostat part -

Do you use both the thermostat and the sandwich plate?
Which part do you attach the water return to?
Putting the water return to the thermostat, wouldnt this mean that your putting the hot water directly into the engine?
I have a tapped hold in the bottom of my radiator with a plastic bung in, should/could i use this instead?

Cheers
Craig

Edit: will i have to buy new water pipes because i read on tmf that metro and mini hoses weremdifferent sizes

Cheers

Edited by Craigie-B on 16th Nov, 2011.

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.

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