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 831 Posts Member #: 908 Post Whore gateshead |
26th Oct, 2011 at 08:43:40am
thought i would take off my supercharger set up last night in prep for the turbo conversion. realise no that running a supercharger on a suck through basis might not be a good idea. the teflon coating on the rotors has peeled off and scored the inside casing. i think its due to the rotors tolerance being so close and trying to squeeze fuel between them. might be something for people to consider when building a suck through set up. balls to the blower!!!
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 9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
26th Oct, 2011 at 09:14:24am
a suck throught system is a dead fish
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667 Posts Member #: 1376 Post Whore clock tower with a sniper rifle |
26th Oct, 2011 at 09:25:01am
Not say that, im going suck through:)
internationally known as "big" swede |
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 824 Posts Member #: 2065 Post Whore Wiltshire |
26th Oct, 2011 at 10:09:06am
Another benifit of suck through is the shit idle, it breaking every 10 miles, carb icing, belt slip and generally shit build quality. Take it from me (I stupidly wasted £3k on a suck setup) they are a total waste of money... On 7th Nov, 2011 apbellamy said:
Shaft seems nice and snug On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
no no no no, you need more boost! you can never ever come on here and say I have enough boost, that's just silly. On 29th Mar, 2010 Star Mag said:
these give no problems with good head |
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3594 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
26th Oct, 2011 at 11:19:28am
I really cannot see why anyone would ever want a suck through setup in this day and age. Unless it was purely for a specific show car or something 9.85 @ 145mph
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667 Posts Member #: 1376 Post Whore clock tower with a sniper rifle |
26th Oct, 2011 at 11:31:09am
Bah i had decided on a suck through and now all this negative thoughts about it internationally known as "big" swede |
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831 Posts Member #: 908 Post Whore gateshead |
26th Oct, 2011 at 11:32:29am
On 26th Oct, 2011 almichie said:
Another benifit of suck through is the shit idle, it breaking every 10 miles, carb icing, belt slip and generally shit build quality. Take it from me (I stupidly wasted £3k on a suck setup) they are a total waste of money...  i had all of the above! but it sounded fecking good!!
balls to the blower!!!
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 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
26th Oct, 2011 at 11:53:54am
I'm deffo going suck through!
On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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667 Posts Member #: 1376 Post Whore clock tower with a sniper rifle |
26th Oct, 2011 at 12:13:17pm
internationally known as "big" swede |
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 3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
26th Oct, 2011 at 01:20:37pm
Interesting vegard, are you not using a dump/recirc valve on that? Or is there a heat issue there?
On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
26th Oct, 2011 at 01:39:39pm
On 26th Oct, 2011 G13B said:
Vegard, are you drilling a hole around the maze / piston ring seal behind the compressor wheel? and can you tell me how too build a good suck through please This is infact a suck through turbo from a R5GTT. Low boost only. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
26th Oct, 2011 at 01:41:13pm
On 26th Oct, 2011 BENROSS said:
a suck throught system is a dead fish I think it's spelled trout, not throught. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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 4890 Posts Member #: 1775 Post Whore Chester |
26th Oct, 2011 at 07:56:55pm
What boost was it running. I would guess over 12psi. Been running my sc12 since 2007 and the rotors are still great. It was reported on the sc12 anything over 14 and the coating goes bye bye.
I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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 1137 Posts Member #: 1450 Post Whore Near Paris - France |
26th Oct, 2011 at 08:32:33pm
On 26th Oct, 2011 Vegard said:
On 26th Oct, 2011 G13B said:
Vegard, are you drilling a hole around the maze / piston ring seal behind the compressor wheel? and can you tell me how too build a good suck through please This is infact a suck through turbo from a R5GTT. Low boost only. They are called R5 Alpine Turbo in France and the 1,4 engine with the fancy head did 110 HP with 0,4 bar boost IIRC. The GT Turbo naming is for the Supercinq (transverse engine) instead of the Renault 5 (longitudinal engine with the gearbox in front). They got the same output (using a single 32 mm carb !) in phase 1 and 120 in phase 2 (water coooled turbo) Suck through advantage is you don't need an intercooler, it is cheap to build and set up and the packaging is much neater. It is probably quite limited in the end, depends what you are looking for, really. Suck through and turbo prevent the use of diesel turbos as they don't have the "gasket" between exhaust and inlet so the engine will consume oil on idle Edited by Advantage on 26th Oct, 2011. Rusty by nature
On 23rd Jun, 2008 paul wiginton said:
They said "That sounds rough mate." I said "Cheers it cost me a fortune to make it sound like that!" |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
26th Oct, 2011 at 11:16:45pm
On 26th Oct, 2011 Vegard said:
On 26th Oct, 2011 BENROSS said:
a suck throught system is a dead fish I think it's spelled trout, not throught. 
Very good 
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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831 Posts Member #: 908 Post Whore gateshead |
27th Oct, 2011 at 07:59:03am
On 26th Oct, 2011 gr4h4m said:
What boost was it running. I would guess over 12psi. Been running my sc12 since 2007 and the rotors are still great. It was reported on the sc12 anything over 14 and the coating goes bye bye. Very happy with my setup i was running between 15 and 17psi. might of been a factor then. balls to the blower!!!
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318 Posts Member #: 9408 Senior Member Tiptree, Essex |
27th Oct, 2011 at 12:49:26pm
I have been under the impression that Eaton superchargers aren't all up for suck through due to the fuel damaging the teflon, seals etc- but people have been telling me I'm wrong for ages (not on TM forum though). Guess I wasn't!
www.topcatcustom.co.uk |
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493 Posts Member #: 3894 Senior Member sallys gap. garden of Ireland |
18th Nov, 2011 at 12:38:18am
My sc12 rotors are a disaster now, 12 (ish)psi on my suck trout. My T3 is still mega, +20000mls +lots of tyres onmy blow trout. suck trout=blows! |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
18th Nov, 2011 at 07:51:58am
^^ Vegard, Look what you've gone and done now
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 10023 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
18th Nov, 2011 at 08:41:10am
If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
18th Nov, 2011 at 07:02:21pm
On 26th Oct, 2011 BENROSS said:
a suck throught system is a dead fish
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