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Well I guess it needs renewing...

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5721...fireturbine.jpg

From today's weather report.

I assume it's real as it's from the BBC

Apologies to those of you who live in Scotland / N England, but is this what we are supposed to rely on in the future ???

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Come on Rod, you've worked in industry, surely you've come across a burnt out motor before now, they do not last forever. One failure in how many run hours multiplied by how many turbines? Not such a bad outlook is it??

it has been rather stretching

Holy crap!

Isn't there one of these next to the Excel centre?

In the 13's at last!.. Just

I'm sure you've probably all seen this, but wort another watch anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqEccgR0q-o

this is just down the road from me......this is one of god knows how many so if you look at the percentage failure rate, i'm sure it is not a significant issue

Edited by Rob Gavin on 8th Dec, 2011.

i hope there isnt bad winds in a couple of weeks, im going on holiday!

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

I have seen the whole flickr picture set of this failure,I think it's well done, the pictures show the genny totally burnt out, shells coming off the blades,but the actual heavy structure of the blades remained intact.. From a " worst case" point of view it looks fairly well contained. Will see if I can find the pics

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Denis O'Brien.

here you go http://www.flickr.com/photos/md93/sets/72157628334022703/

obviously its not a good thing that it happened and hopefully the mistake will be learned from but on the whole, it could have been a lot worse, i imagine if it had lost one blade, the resulting unbalance could have brought the whole tower down.

as an aside, i feel this stuff is a waste of time anyway, nuclear power is the way forward, is a shame it has so much stigma attached.

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.

How much do one of those turbines cost?

They can always borrow an excuse from history modified a little bit ... "wrong type of wind".

I dont really see the point in them. Personally i think the money could be better spent on better research into new technologies. I still think hydrogen is the future.

matt

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will

Exacty, hydrogen is not easily extractable and wind is inconsistant at best.

However, tital power is constant and contains significant energy, why is it still hardly exploited?

Still love nuclear though, if only fusion could be contained, I have my doubts.

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I,m with you on this wil, but the tree huggers and nimbys will never let it happen

We could kill two birds with one stone so to speak.

We could generate heat from fire to produce electricity, and also reduce the single biggest problem on our planet at present.

Nasty, but burn people. The biggest problem we currently face is over-population.

And I doubt it would be possible to ever extract enough energy from wave power to have any impact on the above. FFS, that's like suggesting the weight of everyone on the earth will affect the speed of it's rotation...affecting weather etc etc.

But no matter wave, solar, wind, nuclear. The problem still exists that there are too many of us on the planet.

And no matter how clean energy becomes, you can bet your life the government will dream up a new tax for it !!

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will

Stevie's solution could be used to fix prison over crowding

The more humans there are, the more cattle and fowl we farm as well as the plant life, the crops. We use them all as food. umans die, are in many cases buried, and that carbon goes back into the ground. That said each and every human, cattle and fowl breath in O2 and out CO2.

Burning humans will only release CO2 reducing the population reducing the amount of carbon they absorb. Besides that its not very renewable is it since a human would release all of its usable energy in a matter of seconds, yet takes up to 20 years to become a fully grown adult.


I will never ever be convinced that we as humans can be responsible for the climate change. The planet is covered in 71% water. 33% of that remaining 29% land is desert, and an avarage of 25% of the remaining 20% land is arable, leaving us to to populate %15 of the earths surface. You then have to take into consideration that the population wealth is varied and not everyone will be releasing the same volumes of carbon.

Climate change. What about the fact that the moon is moving away from the earth at a rate of 3.8cm per year, and the earth is moving away from the sun at a rate of 15cm per year. The earth's mass is constantly growing at roughly 1 million tons per yearas space debris is captured by the earths gravitational pull, and the earths rotational speed is slowing down at a rate of 0.005s per year.

I feel these are more significant events that will affect the weather.

when was the last time anyone spoke of the hole in the ozone layer? Its still there, and it gets bigger every year!


There is no such thing as 'renewible energy' Whatever we do, accept it, and get on with it. The Earth does not need saving, it will still be here millions of years from now. This planet does not belong to us, we belong to it.

Skeptic I am

The best way around energy managment is not to produce it for free (not only) it is to use less.

There are two ways to use less : less for each people or less people.

I am with the less people but over several generations, and I am also for the using less energy per people, it is amasing how much is wasted for the good of only a few ...

And as a chaotic transition, that is the concept of the turbo : use wasted energy to produce more energy

Rusty by nature

As some of you know, I have to consider the impact of climate change on a daily basis for my work. This week the government issued the latest guidance on how to assess the increased probability of flooding due to sea level rise and higher intensity rainfall. The actual stated figures are a cause for concern for anyone living in a coastal area or river flood plain. It's just going to cost too much to protect everyone in the future and homes will be lost, without doubt.

Climate change and the increase in CO2 is caused by our insatiable appetite for fossel fuels. Over millions of years, the Earth has stored billions of tons in Fossel Fuels buried in the ground. We are now pulling oil, gas and coal out the ground at a huge rate, burning it and releasing huge amounts of CO2 that is causing the Earth to warm up.

Population growth is also a major issue. The current estimate of the Earth's population is around 7 billion. That has gone up from 5 billion in the 1980s. Did you know that there are estimated to now be more people alive than have ever died on the planet!

Whatever happens in the future, the Earth will recover. It the living beings that will suffer particularly the human race. For fuck sake wake up.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

Climate change happens. Nothing we as humans will ever do will change that, and it certainly isnt a problem.

Yes we may have to adapt as humans have done over the centuries. But it is not a problem.

Too many people though is a huge problem.

As for increasing CO2. I dont believe fossil fuels are the problem there. It is humans, plain and simple.
Just look at a population growth graph with a CO2 graph. They follow each other exactly.

But as long as there is oil and fuel as we know it. May as well make the most of it and enjoy it lol

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will