Awesome looking tyres? anyone tried these...
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So... Halfway through my build - and i have my eye on some force-racing wheels (yeah you're gonna hear from me pretty shortly)

I'm wanting a nice FAT look - love my 10's - but the tyres are just a little bit lame.

so I found THESE


they look pretty much spot on for a mini?

57" x 6" x 10" - the overall diameter is just about bang on - they are made for f500 racers, so a good light car.

Anyone tried em??

or these...

Hoosier Item Number:
44125
Tire Size:
19.5 X 6.5-10
Tread Patterns:
I
Application:
F500
Tread Width:
6.2″
Approx Dia:
19.7″
Approx Circ:
62.0″
Recom Rim:
6-8″
Measured Rim:
8″
Section Width:
8.2″

Edited by Madmx on 3rd Feb, 2012.

Are you planning on using the car on the road?

Certinally the first ones look like cut slicks to me, so they won't be legal on the road.

Not sure about the second, I think they need to be 'E' marked.

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I,m sure wil is correct and its good advice, but how many on here worry about E numbers ?.

Just been on the Hoosier website. Both the above tyres are not even D.O.T marked. and even if they were, they are still not for road use, the D.O.T. mark referes to the fact that they meet the required markings (apparently?)

So ok for track use (in the wet) but not much else. I say 'in the wet' because they will be silly soft, and will only last a few miles in the dry (seriously).

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

Might be an issue come MOT time or if pulled by plod. Accident investigation could invalidate insurance.

From what I can tell, the only uk regulations are that a tyre must display its load/speed index, and have minimum tread depth of 1.6mm across 75% of it's surface.

The whole DOT / E marking thing is a red herring - but will instantly prove that the tyres are 'theoretically' legal, and safe for road use. It is not absolute, as in, they are simply stating that they meet certain requirements, within the bounds of their intended operating parameters.

That said - if the tyres are marked 'competition use only or track use only' or something like that, it MAY cause an issue. (if such marks were still present :) )

Anyone have any definitive statements on this?

i did find this....

"Supply of new passenger car and light trailer tyres4. Subject to Part III of these Regulations, no person shall supply any tyre (not being a retreaded or part-worn tyre) designed so as to be capable of being fitted to a wheel of a passenger car or light trailer unless the tyre is marked with an approval mark in accordance with the requirements of ECE Regulation 30, 30.01, 30.02 or 54 or of EC Directive 92/23."

which suggests its illegal to supply the tyres... but not to use them :)

You are missing the point, which is, they are a race tyre designed for a very light car, and as such they are a VERY soft compund rubber, which means they will not last very long at all on a road car.

Right - just called TWO MOT testers. This isn't definitive, but I suspect its a good enough sample.

BOTH of them were absolutely clear. A tyre does NOT have to have E marking to pass the MOT. Simple as that. They check that the tyres are fit for purpose, and have correct tread depth etc.

Clues that things are NOT fit for purpose, are when they dont match requirements specified for the vehicle, eg too low a speed rating / load index. Or obviously state they are 'not suitable for road use'.

I'm going to call someone with these tyres and see if they are marked this way :)

Edited by Madmx on 3rd Feb, 2012.

ps. thanks for the input guys - im not looking to start a fight on this stuff - just trying to achieve something a little different, without breaking any laws, or endangering anyone.

How much are them tyres?

I've had some road tyres and they lasted 500miles. In the summer with not much loss of traction. And going off what people have said. Those tyres seem like they will last 1 race. So if you drive like a cunt they will last probably 30 miles?

I have to agree with the lads on this one, although mine doesn't get used much, I'd be a bit pissed off needing to change the tyres after every outing, imagine going to a Mini meet at Santa pod for example, you ll need a set to drive down in, another set to use on the strip, then another set to drive back with?

Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs

On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble

yep - get it - everyone thinks they'll last a few minutes. I'll take that as good knowledgeable opinions (genuinely) - kinda willing to find out IF I'm not going to break the law / be dangerous. I will very humbly admit you were all right on this point if they last 100 miles.

Anyone actually tried them?

Edited by Madmx on 3rd Feb, 2012.

In the soft compound, those tyres would literally last 20 miles in the dry. If available in the harder compounds maube a few hundred.

Last time I bought a set of Hoosier slicks they were £200 each, so it's a lot of pounds per mile.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

The only way to settle this is to buy a set. check the depth when new, drive it around for a few days and re-check the tread depth. tell us how you drove and the weather conditions etc and we can all gain some knowledge on how long they actually do last.

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Edited by Sprocket on 3rd Feb, 2012.

aslo

To quote Hoosier, from the web page that the above tyres are catagorised in

Edited by Sprocket on 3rd Feb, 2012.

What is wrong with the A032r? its suitable for up to 7" wide which is more than enough for any road legal car, and it has a really good compound for cars like ours, plus its only £50 a tyre. What more do you need?

Edited by george91 on 3rd Feb, 2012.

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?ty=...id=37710&title=
Fit 7" width 10's, grippy, softish compound, last a reasonable length of time, look okay, job done.

That quote Sprocket is not for the tyres that he is contemplating. they are for the DOT marked tyres, which these are not.

Considering that they are suitable for hillclimbs aand they take place on what is a highway in most cases, they are unlikey to cause death or injury.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph