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Rickus

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Hey guys first question is I have either a mpi or spi fuel tank and how do I tell the difference?

Second I have wired it direct to a switch with an inline fuse which means its constantly pumping when the switch is on. Most cars I know of prime then cut out untill the car is running.

Does it matter that the pump runs constantly? Or can I wire it some how to prime then cut out?


Cheers guys Rick


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The mpi tank has a load of insulation on the outside of the tank and is foam lined, the spi isn't.

Personally, I would wire it up with a relay triggered by the ignition switch. It won't hurt the pump to run as it will just cycle fuel to your regulator and back.

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On 29th Feb, 2012 Rickus said:
Second I have wired it direct to a switch with an inline fuse which means its constantly pumping when the switch is on. Most cars I know of prime then cut out untill the car is running.


That is just a feature of modern fuel injection systems because it's dead easy to implement with the engine management system ECU.

If you want to replicate it, the early Golfs and Escorts that had the very early mechanical K-Jetronic injection system, had a special relay that would prime the system then stop and wait for a signal from (I think) the coil that the engine was running.

TBH, I would wire it as Andy says and get in the habit of not turning the ignition switch on until you want to start the car.

One thing I would add though, is an inertia switch.

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Rickus

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Ok brill guys. My tank is an spi so I take it that's ok?

What's an inertia switch? Incase of accident it cuts fuel off by the inertia force generated at a guess
Cheers Rick


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On 29th Feb, 2012 Rickus said:
What's an inertia switch? Incase of accident it cuts fuel off by the inertia force generated at a guess


Yes, I should have called it an inertia cut-off switch.

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I was driving home from work one night and stopped to help a mate who was broken down at the side of the road after hitting a pot hole, it was the switch that needed a quick press. but if you don't know what your looking for it would be an expensive thing after paying to be towed away to a garage etc.

one day boost will be mine!

On 10th Mar, 2012 Joe C said:
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Spi is only ok for low boost. they don't pump as much fuel as the mpi pumps

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It is pressure that is the limiting factor on the SPI pump, not flow.


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With the pressure given by an spi pump wat boost range can I use? The pressure shouldn't be an issue though should it as its running through a regulator

Cheers, Rick


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The spi pump will supply a bar of pressure, so 14psi. Take off your 4psi base fuel pressure as it has to be more than boost pressure to be able to supply fuel.
So it's good for 10psi max. You can pick up other pumps that drop in for thereabouts £40, and you could run stupid amounts of boost if needbe!

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Well for the purpose of running in I'm only using standard boost so it will be fine for that when the can is run in I will get a mpi pump and drop that in.

Cheers everyone, so much knowledge on here you all are soo much help

Many thanks Rick


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I think the SPI pump can manage 15psi so for safety no more than 10psi boost.

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10psi is what im aiming for so my spi tank should be ideal, can you just drop the mpi pump inmif I want to upgrade at any point?

Cheers

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Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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On 29th Feb, 2012 Craigie-B said:
10psi is what im aiming for so my spi tank should be ideal, can you just drop the mpi pump inmif I want to upgrade at any point?

Cheers

YES!

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