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1909 Posts Member #: 9764 Post Whore Northamptonshire. |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 08:33:31am
http://www.ford.co.uk/FordFleet/NewsAndRev...Ecoboost-Engine
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 1492 Posts Member #: 9468 Post Whore Wootton Bassett |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 09:05:24am
where does it say its 177? I read it as 125ps which is around 115 - 120bhp??? :S Think its a fantasitic idea just dont understand why car makers are like "oh lets use turbos there a great idea" now when theyve been around for a long time On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:
Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle? On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio. |
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 2233 Posts Member #: 9037 Post Whore Doncaster, yorkshire |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 09:10:34am
There all going to forced induction now with smaller capacity for lower emissions Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs
On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:
Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble  |
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1492 Posts Member #: 9468 Post Whore Wootton Bassett |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 09:16:19am
yeah, but why didnt they do this before? I dont get it, more power lmore fuel economy and less emissions? I dont get it?
On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:
Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle? On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio. |
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 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 09:21:39am
they didn't have the efi technology to get the fuel/emissions benefits that they do now. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it 
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 130 Posts Member #: 9395 Advanced Member |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 09:44:16am
It looks very tall
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 392 Posts Member #: 5702 Senior Member Cornwall |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 10:17:21am
Looks like ford have been watching the 998 section |
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 (2)[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/150672766@N03/]Rod Sugden[/url], on Fli) 5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 10:58:29am
On 3rd Mar, 2012 Craigie-B said:
Its like why dont they supercahrge diesels instead of turbo'ing them - reduce the amount of lag they have?? The modern VNT turbos that most common rail (electronically injected) diesels now use, have very little lag and boost from very low RPM. As Andy says, it's advances in engine management that are allowing all of this to happen. Have a read up on some of the stuff that SC are doing with diesels :) Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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432 Posts Member #: 7856 Senior Member Essex |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 02:04:18pm
Give it a few months, there may be a twin turbo version of that 3 cylinder, designed for the Mondeo!
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 673 Posts Member #: 1395 Post Whore chepstow |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 04:48:19pm
Daihatsu did this almost 25 years ago... fuel economy not as good though
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2233 Posts Member #: 9037 Post Whore Doncaster, yorkshire |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 04:52:41pm
bmw are doing a tri turbo deisel, 380bhp iirc. Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs
On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:
Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble |
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1425 Posts Member #: 690 Post Whore Norfolk |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 05:50:47pm
We're one ahead, we're running this engine on our ecu next week on the engine dyno, we'll see what we can squeeze out of it and how it behaves. Everything is tiny on the engine and it has full torque very low in the rpm range. The ford development engineers claim the hardware is good for over 200hp, we really fancy putting one in a mk1 escort, 200hp, 50+mpg and very light weight-oh and the bell housing is type 9 pattern! If Carling made Mini engines
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1425 Posts Member #: 690 Post Whore Norfolk |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 05:54:09pm
The other thing we're playing with in the next two weeks is the 335 twin turbo diesel, rumours that 400hp and 700nm are possible on stock components-we are looking for an e46 compact to drop it in!!
If Carling made Mini engines
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388 Posts Member #: 442 Senior Member Manchester |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 06:42:40pm
Impressive! Cant quite believe that the larger cars will eventually have a tiny 1 litre engine. |
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1909 Posts Member #: 9764 Post Whore Northamptonshire. |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 06:56:28pm
On 3rd Mar, 2012 ntm1275 said:
It looks very tall I wonder if it would fit in a Mini engine bay It will its no bigger than a A4 sheet of paper... |
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1909 Posts Member #: 9764 Post Whore Northamptonshire. |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 06:59:26pm
On 3rd Mar, 2012 Amp said:
Give it a few months, there may be a twin turbo version of that 3 cylinder, designed for the Mondeo! The turbo itself may be of use as it is a small size and makes maximum torque very low down the range (like 1500 rpm or so If I remember correctly), but will require some work to make it fit! Continental job I think as well, apparently spins up to 248,000 which I can't really believe! 1.0 with Twin sequinal turbo's and a eletionic supercharger in the pipe line aswell. (but this is ford...) |
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1425 Posts Member #: 690 Post Whore Norfolk |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 07:12:08pm
The Eco boost range is very impressive, we engine dyno'd the 1.6 and 2.0 versions last year on our ecu, the 1.6 made just over 200hp and is a neat weight/size of unit based on the 1.6 Sigma engine. The 2.0 - duratec based, made 285hp on stock components, with a bit of luck we'll be having a go at the v6 ecoboost from the us soon. If Carling made Mini engines
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 2909 Posts Member #: 83 Post Whore Glasgow, Scotland |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 07:26:36pm
On 3rd Mar, 2012 johnK said:
The Eco boost range is very impressive, we engine dyno'd the 1.6 and 2.0 versions last year on our ecu, the 1.6 made just over 200hp and is a neat weight/size of unit based on the 1.6 Sigma engine. The 2.0 - duratec based, made 285hp on stock components, with a bit of luck we'll be having a go at the v6 ecoboost from the us soon. o/t but was googling after-market management for common rail diesels (cant mess with the ecu in my tdci mondeo like i could with the good ol' bosch EDC in my rover 75) and every other reference kept praising you guys, love the 3.0 tdv6! turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)
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2233 Posts Member #: 9037 Post Whore Doncaster, yorkshire |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 07:48:24pm
My dad just got rid of a 335d in favour of a e92 m3,,the 3.0 twin turbo is an awesome engine just with a re map. Would like to see 400bhp john.
On 3rd Mar, 2012 johnK said:
The other thing we're playing with in the next two weeks is the 335 twin turbo diesel, rumours that 400hp and 700nm are possible on stock components-we are looking for an e46 compact to drop it in!! After that it's the v10 m5 engine looking forward to seeing how that screams at 9000rpm. Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs
On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:
Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble |
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 3329 Posts Member #: 184 Senior Member Melton Mowbray, Pie Country |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 08:10:44pm
Getting over 200 bananas does not seem that optomistic. Look at our engine and the internals and that is a 60 year old design. Mind you I would be very impressed if it made 200 with the stock Turbo, not that I know the details.
On 3rd Mar, 2012 johnK said:
We're one ahead, we're running this engine on our ecu next week on the engine dyno, we'll see what we can squeeze out of it and how it behaves. Everything is tiny on the engine and it has full torque very low in the rpm range. The ford development engineers claim the hardware is good for over 200hp, we really fancy putting one in a mk1 escort, 200hp, 50+mpg and very light weight-oh and the bell housing is type 9 pattern! http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
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1425 Posts Member #: 690 Post Whore Norfolk |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 08:19:24pm
Ben, the Ford guy was talking about 200hp continuous, they have at dunton ran an engine at this level constantly for days without breaking it, so it'll obviously do a lot more for shorter engine life, as with all ecoboosts it's turbo size and injector capacity that limits power, we'll certainly see how much the fox motor will give on stock parts this week!
If Carling made Mini engines
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3329 Posts Member #: 184 Senior Member Melton Mowbray, Pie Country |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 08:39:45pm
Exactly, modern design, materials, quality control and tolerances and a mass produced engine is a precision bit of kit. Pity they all still rely on crude oil. http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
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 1137 Posts Member #: 1450 Post Whore Near Paris - France |
3rd Mar, 2012 at 09:14:23pm
Pretty much all car makers are working on small capacity turboed gasoline engine.
Rusty by nature
On 23rd Jun, 2008 paul wiginton said:
They said "That sounds rough mate." I said "Cheers it cost me a fortune to make it sound like that!" |
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432 Posts Member #: 7856 Senior Member Essex |
4th Mar, 2012 at 09:16:37am
On 3rd Mar, 2012 RidingLow said:
It will its no bigger than a A4 sheet of paper... Only the bare block i'm afraid! Once it has all the ancillaries etc it is significantly larger than an A4 sheet! On 3rd Mar, 2012 RidingLow said:
1.0 with Twin sequinal turbo's and a eletionic supercharger in the pipe line aswell. (but this is ford...) May I ask where you heard about the electronic supercharger from? First time i've heard about it! |
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1909 Posts Member #: 9764 Post Whore Northamptonshire. |
4th Mar, 2012 at 10:06:00am
On 4th Mar, 2012 Amp said:
On 3rd Mar, 2012 RidingLow said:
It will its no bigger than a A4 sheet of paper... Only the bare block i'm afraid! Once it has all the ancillaries etc it is significantly larger than an A4 sheet! On 3rd Mar, 2012 RidingLow said:
1.0 with Twin sequinal turbo's and a eletionic supercharger in the pipe line aswell. (but this is ford...) May I ask where you heard about the electronic supercharger from? First time i've heard about it! It come from a Friend who works for ford and he reads alot up online aswell, I can't be 100% on it but it has been done before, it takes the mechanical lag away from the engine increasing BHP And hasn't stopped the 16valve boys getting 16valve K series and Vtecs engines in standard minis :) sure t can be done |
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