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Hey guys ill be making my own t2 manifold and im wondering what size pipe I should use, also does someone still sell the flanges that fit to the engine?

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Craig

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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about 1 inch bore will be fine, have a look in the forsale section Paul_S may have some flanges left

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I used 32mm OD mandrel bends, with a 1.5mm wall thickness. Remember if your going to use SS back purging of the welds is necessary to prevent oxidation of the weld on the iside of the tube.
Check out Paul S's thread on the remote mani they built for there Miglia.

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My thinking about this has changed recently. I used 28mm bore on all my manifolds, nominal 1" stainless steel stuff.

The 998Ti compact manifold for the T2 down the back works OK but has an odd torque curve. Computer simulation has shown that pulses in the short centre branch are killing VE on the centre cylinders in the 4-5k rpm range.

Hence if you are doing a Mirage type manifold then the larger 38mm OD mandrell bends would be better as the larger bore tends to kill of the pulses.

An LCB style manifold with a remote turbo using 28mm bore stuff is good for around an extra 5% bhp.

I have one set of head flanges in stainless left. I have both head and turbo inlet flanges in mild steel.

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Ill take the mild steel ones please mate just need the flanges which attach an x manifold to the head paypal? Can you pm me your address and ill pay you tonight

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


Craigie-B

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So i need to use 38mm od pipe yeah?? Cheers *smiley* any idea where to get it from?? Need it withing 3 days tbh

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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On 16th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
An LCB style manifold with a remote turbo using 28mm bore stuff is good for around an extra 5% bhp.


Have you proven this now Paul with the Mig or is the 5% from your simulations?
I know Mike did really well on 10psi with his sidemount.

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Simulated.

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I don't doubt that 5% or so is realistic.

I believe Mike made 150nana's at 10psi. I would have expected more like 135nana's from his engine spec at this boost. (actually thats 10%)

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Yes, 5% is conservative.

It would be considerably more if used with long inlet runners.

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Craigie-B,

You have multiple PMs. For a moment there I mislaid one of the flanges. I did not realise that I only had one set of mild steel left.

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Got your messages and send you the money mate :)

P.s. Is this a tight enough bend?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-degree-Stainl...=item3cbb571b93

Does anyone know where I can get a steel version with a good wall thickness as my dad can only weld steel

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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Stainless is steel and easier to weld, and yes you can weld it to mild if you want to.


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mmmm

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


Craigie-B

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is that a tight enough bend though?

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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It doesn't have to be a particularly tight bend. The ones I used are a larger radius than that. It isn't a question that can be answered by anyone but you really. It depends on the design you have in mind.


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I wanted to make a manifold that would hold a t2 and not require me to cut the bulkhead (like a mirage basically)

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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I have a set of mild steel head flanges if they're any good Craig?

On 7th Nov, 2011 apbellamy said:
Shaft seems nice and snug


On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
no no no no, you need more boost! you can never ever come on here and say I have enough boost, that's just silly.


On 29th Mar, 2010 Star Mag said:
these give no problems with good head


Craigie-B

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its alright buddy Paul S sorted me out - thanks for the offer though :)

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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On 16th Apr, 2012 almichie said:
I have a set of mild steel head flanges if they're any good Craig?

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