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736 Posts Member #: 1865 Post Whore Norwich, Norfolk |
16th May, 2012 at 05:32:54pm
Twice today my car suffered from complete brake failure, nothing on the pedal at all, no resistance, pedal hitting the floor.
Edited by Simon on 16th May, 2012. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
16th May, 2012 at 05:42:09pm
check the front hub bearing's and nuts, if they are fucked the discs ccan kock the pads back, On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
16th May, 2012 at 05:46:24pm
Clevis pin come out? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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9311 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
16th May, 2012 at 05:47:00pm
Hub nut loose, I had this one once.... |
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736 Posts Member #: 1865 Post Whore Norwich, Norfolk |
16th May, 2012 at 05:55:19pm
Clevis pin is good but its a good call as thats what it feels like just a floppy pedal, but alas that is there and working fine.
Edited by Simon on 16th May, 2012. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
16th May, 2012 at 06:01:08pm
ah they wont affect anything stationary,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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736 Posts Member #: 1865 Post Whore Norwich, Norfolk |
16th May, 2012 at 06:04:16pm
i'm wondering if the master cylinder seals have gone and need replacing, but I dont understand how they could work intermittently, i thought it would just stop working and that would be that if it was the seals. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
16th May, 2012 at 06:21:50pm
Ive had clutch masters where the seals seem to try to flip themselves inside out, could be somthing similar happeniung here,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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665 Posts Member #: 9345 Post Whore Sheffield |
16th May, 2012 at 06:59:53pm
They don't always fail completely, so it is possible that it's the seals.
On 16th May, 2012 Simon said:
i'm wondering if the master cylinder seals have gone and need replacing, but I dont understand how they could work intermittently, i thought it would just stop working and that would be that if it was the seals. |
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337 Posts Member #: 9138 Senior Member wolves |
16th May, 2012 at 07:31:16pm
try pressing the pedal then back of the pressure very slightly and press again gently , usually shows up if its master seals , might have to try it a few times but usually works |
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736 Posts Member #: 1865 Post Whore Norwich, Norfolk |
16th May, 2012 at 07:31:21pm
i've ordered a rebuild kit for the master cylinder.
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580 Posts Member #: 9580 Post Whore Surrey |
16th May, 2012 at 07:32:49pm
Master cylinder seals. I think spares do a seal kit |
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8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
16th May, 2012 at 08:18:26pm
They are fairly straight forward to reseal. Like everything, make sure its clean and use a bit of brake fluid to lubricate the seals as they go in. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
16th May, 2012 at 08:20:54pm
Least its not the servo seals, theyre a complete dogs dinner to take apart and put back together! On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
16th May, 2012 at 08:27:35pm
i had this before. It was the master cylinder in my case although i have seen humped bearings allow the pads to get pushed back as the others have mentioned |
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641 Posts Member #: 9937 Post Whore somewhereintheuniverse near selkirk scotland |
16th May, 2012 at 08:39:08pm
bet its the master cylinder mate i had the exact same prob on my old mini give em hell |
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218 Posts Member #: 9213 Senior Member Scotland |
20th May, 2014 at 08:20:34pm
Just discovered this thread whilst searching for a solution to my own intermittent brake problem. I am 99% sure its the front wheel bearing / loose hub nut, which i would never have worked out in a million years! TM hopefully saves the day again!! |
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330 Posts Member #: 9628 Senior Member |
21st May, 2014 at 09:47:06am
yeah i used to have it all the time, it turns out to be a worn spacer and nut.
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218 Posts Member #: 9213 Senior Member Scotland |
23rd May, 2014 at 10:39:59pm
Well its safe to say ive had loose hub nuts for a good 3-4 years, not ideal in a race car! Took the wheels off tonight and the nuts were finger tight..... Torqued them up and the brake pedal feels instantly more assured. The sloppy spongey pedal has gone and the feedback is the same on every dab of the pedal, feels very strange!
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3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
24th May, 2014 at 08:32:39am
If they were worn they were never tight enough in the first place, and even if it is worn, tightening the hub nut would fix that probably instantly without having to replace anything.
On 21st May, 2014 coopdog said:
yeah i used to have it all the time, it turns out to be a worn spacer and nut. i would recommend changing both if you can On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
24th May, 2014 at 09:54:18am
nky,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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