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![]() 296 Posts Member #: 9117 Senior Member Northampton |
17th May, 2012 at 07:17:41am
Hi all, after numerus searches i still cant decide what i want cutch wise RTS is very interesting but thinking of trying an off the shelf kit first as my engines not massively modified.
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![]() 296 Posts Member #: 9117 Senior Member Northampton |
17th May, 2012 at 07:31:03am
ooo also have you guys experimented with different sized waterpump pulleys and had any interesting results? Confessed addiction to everything mini |
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![]() 2233 Posts Member #: 9037 Post Whore Doncaster, yorkshire |
17th May, 2012 at 07:41:46am
Definaly a x pin diff, I would also definarely go rts, building the engine with the future in mind, as I reckon at least 95% of us on this forum did not set out to achieve big numbers. Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs
On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:
Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
17th May, 2012 at 08:21:46am
Stick with standard drops. The clutch you list will be good for 120bhp ish on an organic plate, and some more with a paddle plate.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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![]() 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
17th May, 2012 at 09:12:21am
i have fitted a smaller pump pully in the past to help cooling at low speeds Yes i moved to the darkside |
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![]() 296 Posts Member #: 9117 Senior Member Northampton |
17th May, 2012 at 07:52:06pm
thanks for all the replys! removed the rest of the block/gearbox/flywheel and have noticed that on the crank the tapered section (flywheel end) ahs been butchered in the past will will i still be able to use the crank has anyone else come across this problem?? Confessed addiction to everything mini |
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614 Posts Member #: 2153 Post Whore kings langley |
17th May, 2012 at 10:35:54pm
use some fine valve lapping paste on the taper of the crank lap the flywheel onto it then re check the condition, sometimes it can look worse than it actually is... Speeding is like masturbating, everyone does it, but not all of us film it and put it on the internet
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![]() 7265 Posts Member #: 1268 The Boom Boom speaker Police! Essex |
17th May, 2012 at 11:05:26pm
Can you put up a pic of the butchery for us to see?
In the 13's at last!.. Just |
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![]() 6753 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
18th May, 2012 at 06:00:06am
On 17th May, 2012 boostjunkie said:
Hi all, after numerus searches i still cant decide what i want cutch wise RTS is very interesting but thinking of trying an off the shelf kit first as my engines not massively modified. what are your opinions on this kit... http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?ty=...id=40380&title= also what would you recon on drop gear (primary) ratios? i will be running the standard metro turbo gearbox SC optioins on minispares http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?ty=...id=36632&title= stripped my engine last night, really enjoyed stripping her down everything so far looks great, small score on bore hoping it will hone out as its not a lip or anything, run out of time before i was called in by the wife! just have the timing gear and flywheel assy to pull off then split the block/gearbox also looking at running the minispares crosspin diff, really want her running now feels like so long! :) up to around 250 bhp , the helical drops have been fine , clutchwise , i would say , approximately >>> stock metro turbo clutch good to around 130 lbs/ft torque , then same with the ap rally plate good to around 145 lbs/ft , then single grey pre verto with ap rally plate good to 180 lbs/ft then rts with metro plate good to 210 lbs/ft then rts with ap rally plate good to 240 lbs.ft + a fair bit depends on have you got the clamping height set right on the cover , do you have a very peaky power delivery ,and did you bed the clutch in properly over a few hundred miles . on the pre verto clutch ,generally seems to need 1.5mm off the mounting pillars. there a thread on here about that somewhere . rts wise , the trq capability will vary with which springs you use ,and subsiquently what clamping pressure you have . for your setup , i would use the stock turbo clutch and the ap rally plate ,then see how it goes . Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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![]() 2233 Posts Member #: 9037 Post Whore Doncaster, yorkshire |
18th May, 2012 at 06:17:18am
I am hoping my rts will hold up, I am beginning to worry lol its 2x998 springs with ap bonded rally plate, let's be cautious and say 200hp? Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs
On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:
Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble |
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![]() 296 Posts Member #: 9117 Senior Member Northampton |
21st May, 2012 at 08:45:51am
wow great responce thanks for all the spec Robert, that crank looks like this...
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
21st May, 2012 at 09:04:33am
That crank is scrap. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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![]() 296 Posts Member #: 9117 Senior Member Northampton |
21st May, 2012 at 06:56:01pm
nasty mess a!! cant belive someone would/could do such damage! and then put it all back together and run again! Confessed addiction to everything mini |
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