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mayoturbo

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18146326


madonminis

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Shame its not 68 or I could take the mini for a spin

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All A35,s are pre 1960, but not the vans, necessarily.

Luckily, my van is 1959, like the car.


Brett

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Load of pants imo you get the enthusiasts for any age of car not just 1960 or older
but its a step in the right direction in general

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Oh dear. All cars should have some form of MOT/official checks. I'm sure we've all seen some horrifically dangerous work completed by 'enthusiasts'.

For example that chap who did video diaries on youtube, fixing capris or something...

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I'm with Andy on this one.

Whilst the majority of owners of "classics" will make sure they are safe, there are idiots who think they know best and the value of pre-60 V5s will go up even more than pre-73 ones for those who want to abuse the system.

A far better solution would have been to have a cut down version of the MOT - at a substantially reduced cost - specifically covering that age of vehicle, to check they are basically safe to be on the roads without having to meet all the modern standards.

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got to say i don't agree with this. Although we all generally look after our cars, it would not be the first time an MOT teester has highlighted an issue we were unaware of.

this is going to open up the gates to bodgers again who will fill pre 60 cars with riveted plates and filler to tart something up and allow it on the road.


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I concur, I'm an enthuiast, or more specifically an enthusiastic bodger. the MOT is a safety check and should be maintained for all cars.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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The guy I use is very mini friendly but also strict on corrosion, suspension and brakes etc. You just get some slack on emmisions and mini 'issues' like hand brake efficiency which can be an arse to pass.


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I feel it's going to become a bad idea, Vehicle recovery wagons (towing only) are exempt from an MOT and I still think that's a bad idea. As a majority are looked after, but there's still knackers out there which are only good for scrap.

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

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John

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Wouldn't surprise me if insurance companies started requiring an annual "road worthiness" report from garages for pre 1960 vehicles.

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On 22nd May, 2012 John said:
Wouldn't surprise me if insurance companies started requiring an annual "road worthiness" report from garages for pre 1960 vehicles.


My boss has a 1930's Bedford K series flat bed and that has to have a certifcate of road worthiness for his insurence company what really is an MOT as it gets done every time he renews it but only dose 200 miles a year in it


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In theory, that rotbox Mk1 sold at auction a few weeks ago is now road legal !!

Metric is for people who can't do fractions.


Rob Gavin

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without reading up on it, I assume although a car is mot exempt, it would still be required to be maintained in a roadworthy state?


wil_h

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Of course, cars under 3 years old are not required to have an MOT, but they can still be a pile of shite.

There was ain interesting statistic pimped around recently by Honest John. It stated that 1 in 5 new cars fail their first MOT. Im not sure what their agenda was but my first thought was "how many faild with a bulb out, a bald tyre or a chipped screne". and anyway, isn't the MOT there for a reason?

I bet the number that failed with serious faults was low.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Rob Gavin

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I've always been sceptical on the 3 year exemption for new cars; I know of many who can do in excess of 50k a year. Add in someone who doesn't give a hoot for maintenance and a car presented for its first mot with 150k on the clock.

To some, a car is simply a working tool and will pay as little as possible to keep it on the road


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Im with a few of you guys i think any car that is to be driven on the road should have an mot or similar. I restore classic cars and have done as a job for about 17 years(wow thats scary) i have seen some amazing and dangerous bodges that were just a time bomb waiting to go off. some of them were on cars people had just bough and didn't have a clue.
Alot of the customers i deal with now know nothing about cars and just drive them unless there is a problem or something they want to change.
In the report they talk about percentages of pre 60 cars on the road and how many are involved in accidents. well thats probably because there are more being restored or worked on to get them through mots so in november they will be able to use them Hmmm i can see a rise in both number on the road and accidents to follow.
I would much rather see the government do something like roll on the tax exemption again but we all know thats not gona happen as that will cost them.

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crap idea... I would still rather have my car checked over by someone else

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I can understand that a car with a separate chassis and body might be okay, but anything with unibody construction really needs to be checked for corrosion annually.

Metric is for people who can't do fractions.


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There is a need for a safety check of some description. perhaps a half price test which just concentrates on steering suspension, tyres, corrosion and safety issues rather than paying £55 to check a load of nit picky stuff which is not applicable to an older car such as ABS, number plate legalities, warning lights, emissions etc


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Insurance will probably go up to reflect the increased risk these cars pose cancelling out the initial saving let along the safety hazards.

Doesn't matter whos in power, there all bloody idiots.

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Yeah !!! Lmao hadnt thought of that insure it and go for a spin lmao


On 22nd May, 2012 Alex said:
In theory, that rotbox Mk1 sold at auction a few weeks ago is now road legal !!

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


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Rob Gavin

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OT but who pays £55 for an MOT? I know its the guideline but I've never paid anything like it. Last moto was on the golf - the garage came and collected it from the office and delivered it back to me, all in for £45.


On 22nd May, 2012 dazibee said:
There is a need for a safety check of some description. perhaps a half price test which just concentrates on steering suspension, tyres, corrosion and safety issues rather than paying £55 to check a load of nit picky stuff which is not applicable to an older car such as ABS, number plate legalities, warning lights, emissions etc


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I think this is the key part-

"Owners of classic vehicles will still be legally required to ensure that they are safe and in a proper condition to be on the road but scrapping the MoT test for these vehicles will save motorists money."



So in a nutshell, no test needed, but cause an accident through negligence or neglect and you'll get prosecuted.
Personally I would consider having a pre-60 car "tested" annually just to make sure.


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
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I agree any car no matter what age should have a fair M.O.T.

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