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well in that case ive sent you a PM


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ok just read from the start :p price dep im interested :)

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id take a set of bosses and rails depending on price look grate paul planing for future use


Paul S

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Thanks for the feedback guys.

The G-code is all done (by Sturgeo) so it's time to make some swarf :)



We'll try and make a couple over the weekend and that will prove the CNC and give us an indication of the time required to make them and an idea of the likely cost.

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The picture is not showing as the Plusnet server seems to have died.

Tom, but some money in the meter.

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You need some lube on that *wink*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


sturgeo

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Do you mean lube or coolant?

We are only running a slow feed rate at the moment and not doing any plunges more than a mm deep and everything is still cold to the touch.

It does get the occassioinal blast of air though but thats mainly to clear the swarf, we've also put a bit of WD on just to see if it makes any difference and it doesn't :)

Edited by sturgeo on 10th Nov, 2012.


Paul S

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It needs something to cool down the cutting tip. We are getting a poor surface finish, particularly towards the end of the cut which suggests heat issues.

I don't want to have to deal with liquid coolant, so we are going to rig up an air blast running off the compressor.

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just the odd squirt from a garden sprayer will make all the difference.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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On 10th Nov, 2012 sturgeo said:
Do you mean lube or coolant?



Same thing. Coolant is lubricant and lubricant is coolant *wink* you need a constant stream. Air will cool the tool , it won't lubricate it, and the surface finish may still be dull. The tool might still clog up with out the lube.

Was just a thought, and I know where you're coming from not wanting to deal with it as its a whole other complication, and very messy.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


Paul S

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On to the port ::::::::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFNrKzlEJjI&feature=plcp

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Good stuff!

I need one of these in my life!

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



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Good skills.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Next job is to make a fixture to hold the bosses on the angled ops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=jStjPe5P3Rk

Left it alone to finish whilst we have dinner:)

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Awesome.

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vids are cool,

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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Paul S

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Vids don't show some of the problems we are having :(

At the moment everything is about 99% scale. Not sure why but probably a combination of scaling and backlash issues. Sturgeo is fixing it in software at the moment so should not be a problem.

The other issue is the shear amount of time it takes. We don't seem to be able to take big cuts without the machine making a lot of noise and vibration, so we are limited to removing about 1-2cc per minute. So that's typically a 2 by 5mm cut moving at 100mm/min for 1cc per minute.

When you have a block at 270cc and cutting it down to just 63cc, then that's a lot of maching time (and cost).

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Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."


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Now working at 1.0002 scale :)

That'll do nicely.

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do you think a refinement in the cutting tool design ,or a bit of lubricant coolant with a guard to stop it splashing all over the place might help with cutting speed ?


On 12th Nov, 2012 Paul S said:
Vids don't show some of the problems we are having :(

At the moment everything is about 99% scale. Not sure why but probably a combination of scaling and backlash issues. Sturgeo is fixing it in software at the moment so should not be a problem.

The other issue is the shear amount of time it takes. We don't seem to be able to take big cuts without the machine making a lot of noise and vibration, so we are limited to removing about 1-2cc per minute. So that's typically a 2 by 5mm cut moving at 100mm/min for 1cc per minute.

When you have a block at 270cc and cutting it down to just 63cc, then that's a lot of maching time (and cost).

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Paul S

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Yes, coolant system is now on my shopping list :(

Another vid showing progress today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpGWpFNWNoQ&feature=plcp

The port, pocket for the branch and radiusing the outside now all in one piece of G-Code.

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rdg tools do a vertex suds kit with pump nozzle ect for a myford for about £100 might be worth a look i am sure it could be fitted

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Paul S

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Thanks Neil, just the job:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RDGTOOLS-VERTEX-...=item43af9a1879

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Last video, promise :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHGNPVWbW08...t=ULsHGNPVWbW08

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Now we know the materials getting removed in the right places we can look at making it more efficient. A lot of time is spent moving the z axis up to a safe point between each cut, we can easily tell it to go back over itself effectively halving the machining time :)


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Have you considered casting something and then just finishing the critical areas? Little furnaces are cheap.. and you can use scrap aluminium then at reduced cost.

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