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5portsrock

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Hi what are the maximum boost levels that should be run with 21251 metro pistons ? They are being used in a friends turbo nova ,thanks in advance


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All depends on various conditions mate. There is no definitive answer, Although not a lot if any should be used with those pistons truth be told, I don't really think they're up to the job.

Edited by Carlzilla on 5th Jul, 2012.

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine)


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21251s are bad enough on NA motors i wouldnt use them in a forced induction engine!


5portsrock

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Thanks for the replies , anyone else have any experiences ?


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I got away with 20psi, briefly, but I cant recommend them (or 20psi !)


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In short the metro Turbo piston 21251

Stay out of detonation and 14 to 16 psi is realistic regular

But the slightest Nats of detonation and the lands will shat themselves

21253 pistons 12 p s I. Max metro N/A pistons

Edited by BENROSS on 6th Jul, 2012.






5portsrock

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Many thanks .


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On 6th Jul, 2012 BENROSS said:
In short the metro Turbo piston 21251

Stay out of detonation and 14 to 16 psi is realistic regular

But the slightest Nats of detonation and the lands will shat themselves

21253 pistons 12 p s I. Max metro N/A pistons


steve ,21251... i don't think thats the turbo p/n is it ..

http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/...iston.aspx|Back to search



i think 22357 is the turbo one ..



http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/...iston.aspx|Back to search

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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21251 is the low comp heposhite piston. Not suitable for turbo IMHO.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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Why when he has the pick of the a-series range would he go for that piston?

Edited by minimole23 on 7th Jul, 2012.

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


Carlzilla

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Possibly because he owns a nova?

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine)


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On 7th Jul, 2012 Carlzilla said:
Possibly because he owns a nova?


It's my Nova, and it's a race car;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knGHIcjVDGI

Thanks to Fraser (5portsrock) for posting up the question on my behalf.

I didn't choose the pistons that were used in the car, the chap who built it originally used them, and it was 10 years or more ago now. I don't know what led him to these particular ones, other than they were the right bore size for his needs (and they were cheap).

The Nova has used these pistons for all this time with no problems, at 1.5bar of boost.

But I'd like to increase the boost levels soon, along with some steel rods for more revs. I was hoping to find a direct replacement forged-type piston, and avoid doing any machining work in the block.

But from what Fraser has been able to ascertain, there is only an overbored option available at 0.020";

http://www.med-engineering.co.uk/catalogue...istons-020-18cc

If anyone knows any different, please let us know! Thanks.

ps - the engine has to run at 999cc or below, due to the Class regulations for hillclimbs and sprints. With the 70.61mm piston it works out at 985cc.

Edited by novarally on 7th Jul, 2012.


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Scratch what I said, did not realise you were still standard bore.

What about a set of metro turbo pistons? They take whatever people have thrown at them.

Edit: accrilite do a standard sized forged piston but the minimum order is 3 or 5 sets. cant remember which now from when I enquired about some.

Edited by minimole23 on 7th Jul, 2012.

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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Fair enough, at least it's not one of the usual bodykitted up pos that you see on the road.
Metro turbo will be your best bet from the A-series range, along with a set of total seal rings (about £100 iirc) from the states. Worth asking on here first before you order some, there has been people on occasion with a new set kicking about.

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine)

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