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I'm currently trying to validate a plenum design for my k1200 conversion using Ricardo WAVE.

The snag I have is that work won't let me use their flow bench to obtain my own discharge coefficients. Has anyone got any flow/lift curve data for an exhaust and inlet port of one of these heads?

Any help would be much appreciated becuase right now i've got nothing.

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Andy


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I've got discharge coefficient vs lift data for a 12G940 and a 12G295 that I derived from published flow bench data. Not exactly what you are looking for but I can tell you that they do not vary a great deal.

If you can't get the K1200 data then you could at least use a generic curve with the actual valve throat sizes.

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Paul, could you PM me that data that you have? Or post it on here, whichever you prefer? At least I can get a base model constructed and validated against dyno data that I have.

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This is the data for a standard port Pierce 5-port head, 35.7mm inlet 29mm exhaust valves.

http://www.starchak.ca/tech/8-port.htm

My software uses Length/Dia. ratios against coefficients:



I would be very interested in the results, particularly with regard to variations in runner length.

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Cheers for that, I'll keep you posted with any updates!


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I'll have a look . Do you have any flow figures? Otherwise I should have a more or less generic pent roof 16v head cd map that seems to work well for predicting power and torque for a 16v k conversion. i'm working designing a dual tuned plenum to shift the powerband of the 16 v head on paper it looks good

Edited by Sir Yun on 26th Nov, 2012.

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On 26th Nov, 2012 Sir Yun said:
I'll have a look . Do you have any flow figures? Otherwise I should have a more or less generic pent roof 16v head cd map that seems to work well for predicting power and torque for a 16v k conversion. i'm working designing a dual tuned plenum to shift the powerband of the 16 v head on paper it looks good


Sounds cool, are you going to share your results / design?

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its pretty simple actually: tuned intakes on the bmw itb's going into a small plenum (1380cc) with a sort of megaphone intake pipe to tune the low low end. Simulated I get about 150 nm at 2000 rpm near flat at 140 nm to about 5000, so lots of midrange and low end power . gives up around 10 bhp at the very top end but as it looks now it is worth it as it is a road engine. maybe variable intake would solve that. Exhaust is a 4 in 1 with a merge collector and muffler .
it is just simulated for now and it will be a b!tch to fold it under the bonnet.

Edited by Sir Yun on 27th Nov, 2012.

That sir, is not rust, it is the progressive mass reduction system

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http://www.ecos2012.unipg.it/public/procee...cos2012_181.pdf

look at fig 5.

for cd of a rsv 1000 and a ducati 999 .. that should be near enough for starters

Edited by Sir Yun on 27th Nov, 2012.

That sir, is not rust, it is the progressive mass reduction system

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