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kappa

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Hi all,

I am building my turbo conversion for my car, which will be a MG metro turbo, with a mirage manifold and t2/t25 hybrid turbo with 360 degrees thrust bearing, it will be running on a megajolt setup and will be running a intercooler as well.

I just wanted to find out in regards to fueling, will this be a good pump and regulator kit to use:

1. It is a sytec external fuel pump model otp020 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SYTEC-FSE-OTP020...r-/170859211248

2. a fpr fuel regalater kit - http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/13081852249...type=pla&crdt=0

All help is really appreciated.

Thanks

Bobby

Edited by kappa on 17th Dec, 2012.


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That fpr looks very cheep!! Just use the rover one works fine for most.

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kappa

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What about the fuel pump is that any good?


kappa

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Or is I was to use a metro turbo fuel pressure regulator would I be able to run a mechanical fuel pump or do I need a electric fuel pump?


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You need an electric one , that one looks ok but I would go with the tried and tested Bosch one.


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The regulator needs to be a type that raises fuel pressure with boost.

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kappa

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So this type of regulator: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-MG-Metro-TU...140892948265%26

Will I need to run a electric pump with this or can I use a manual fuel pump with this?


On 17th Dec, 2012 minimole23 said:
The regulator needs to be a type that raises fuel pressure with boost.


Johnny

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no matter what fuel regulator you have you need an electric pump, just get an SPI or MPI tank. or as the lads say, buy a bosch one.


kappa

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Unfortunately cannot use a MPI or SPI tank, as I am turboing my clubby estate and these tanks will not fit. So I will need a bosch one. What if I use a facet one, but if I use the facet one, which one, as there are so many to choose?


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On 17th Dec, 2012 kappa said:
Hi all,

I am building my turbo conversion for my car, which will be a MG metro turbo, with a mirage manifold and t2/t25 hybrid turbo with 360 degrees thrust bearing, it will be running on a megajolt setup and will be running a intercooler as well.

I just wanted to find out in regards to fueling, will this be a good pump and regulator kit to use:

1. It is a sytec external fuel pump model otp020 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SYTEC-FSE-OTP020...r-/170859211248

2. a fpr fuel regalater kit - http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/13081852249...type=pla&crdt=0

All help is really appreciated.

Thanks

Bobby


Pump is fine.

The FPR kit even if it wasnt cheap crap, is of no use to a carburetor engine whatsoever.

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On 17th Dec, 2012 kappa said:
So this type of regulator: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-MG-Metro-TU...140892948265%26

Will I need to run a electric pump with this or can I use a manual fuel pump with this?


On 17th Dec, 2012 minimole23 said:
The regulator needs to be a type that raises fuel pressure with boost.


That FPR is ideal for a turbo carburetor engine.

As for mechanical pumps, there are no mechanical pumps that I am aware of that would be suitable for a turbo Mini. ( unless you're talking 2000+hp mechanical pumps )


Are you after a pump that requires threaded fittings, or one that simply has push on barbs ?

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On 17th Dec, 2012 kappa said:
Unfortunately cannot use a MPI or SPI tank, as I am turboing my clubby estate and these tanks will not fit. So I will need a bosch one. What if I use a facet one, but if I use the facet one, which one, as there are so many to choose?


Make sure you give due consideration to fuel slosh if using a Bosch style pump. They do not like drawing air.

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kappa

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What do you mean by threaded fittings or push on barbs, sorry I am still a novice in this


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With fittings Ie Aeroquip, torques, goodridge. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bosch-044-Fuel-P...=item230ffc7d49

With out ie push on.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V8-EFI-external-...=item19b9b4abd8

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kappa

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I take it the one with fittings is the better one to go for?


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No i am not say that they was the first pumps i found on ebay to show you whats going on.

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up.


kappa

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ok mate, i need to more research into this and see which one will be better to use


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for the types of fittings think about what type of fuel line your going to use ie stainless braided or standard

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I use the push-on type, so long as you use proper fuel hose clips (not jubilee clips) it will be fine and I run a lot higher pressure as I'm fuel injected.

All these electric pumps are primarily used with fuel injected systems so the standard push-on fittings, clips, hoses etc. are fine on the lower pressures the SU needs. The threaded fittings look pretty but are overkill IMO.

But, as already said, you need to decide your overall system requirements (like what type of pipes will you be running for the flow and return lines) before buying bits that might not be compatible.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


kappa

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Well the pipes I have running on the car are 8mm standard copper ones fuel and return


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On 18th Dec, 2012 kappa said:
Well the pipes I have running on the car are 8mm standard copper ones fuel and return


then it's an added hassle and expense to use a pump with threaded fittings which then need adapted to a push on barb.

Just source a regular Mini turbo pump ( cavalier SRI, Golf GTI of same vintage ) and it has a 10 or 12mm inlet, and 8mm outlet for easy connection.
Although I see they dont offer photos of the pumps on Sytec's site anymore, which hardly helps matters.

Something like this, Matt Lewis is a well respected seller, certainly within Ford circles so no problems there.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SYTEC-MOTORSPORT...=item23262f55c3

Edited by stevieturbo on 18th Dec, 2012.

9.85 @ 145mph
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speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will


kappa

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Thanks a lot for the advise stevieturbo

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