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Andy500

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Hi all,

Has anybody got any experience of these?

http://www.speedflowshop.co.uk/laminova-oi...olers-174-c.asp

I know the metro turbo used to have something similar but these look just the ticket for. Neat compact and effective install, my thoughts are that thy would also let the oil get up to temp quicker and help prevent over cooling thus negating the need for an oil stat.

Or am I completely on the wrong track with this?


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The oil in a mini, will always get up to temperature pretty quickly anyways becuase of the gears churning up the oil. At least a lot moreso than an equivalent engine without a gearbox sat in the sump.

An oil thermostat is something you realy should think about if you need one to be honest. Modern oils kick the arse of oils from the era when the oilstat was invented to satisfy the need at the time.
Have you put a temp probe in your sump and taken readings to see if you really need one?

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We had one of the mg metro ones that where part of the filter head on the van. It just made the engine run hotter...

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Hi turbo dave,

Not even built the engine yet as just compiling parts and. List of the bits I want. My experience on the supercharged engine I ran until recently was that the oil got stonkingly hot on the motorway and track hence it needed the cooler but for most road use it probably negated the need for the cooler as it sat below 90c most of the time! I just ran a standard mocal 13 row which was sufficient enough for the job!


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ive got one.

heres the thread from my questions

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=461108


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On 20th Dec, 2012 apbellamy said:
We had one of the mg metro ones that where part of the filter head on the van. It just made the engine run hotter...


Yeah thought that may be the case and the cooling system would have to be up to the increased load of course! I guess the benefit though would be in getting the oil up to a higher operating temp for Normal road driving quicker


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btw with regard to this you are running a separate water system arent you and not running it through the existing water cooling for the engine.

its to my understanding that these run as a stand alone system. if you use the engine water course its not really going to be as efficient.

bit like this from the laminova.se site although this is intercooler im assuming the principle is the same :/

www.laminova.se/cooler-guide/intercooler/

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No my thoughts were to plumb in to the normal cooling system which if performing correctly should g et the oil up to 90 quicker and should then hold it around the 100c mark quite effectivley


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On 20th Dec, 2012 Andy500 said:
No my thoughts were to plumb in to the normal cooling system which if performing correctly should g et the oil up to 90 quicker and should then hold it around the 100c mark quite effectivley


isnt it an oil cooler, not an oil heater :) (although i see what you are trying to do, albeit i cant see its gives to much of a gain, if anything in my car i needed the oil cooler!)

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Well I suppose it would perform both tasks in theory! I'm sure modern cars run things like this now as well, although I could be completely wrong. The only downside I can see is that it would whack the additional cooling load of the oil on to the cooling system, they just seem like a nice compact solution and all get round the problem of trying to find somewhere to sit a cooler in the airflow by the time the throttle bodies and plenum etc are on and there's also an intercooler and rad hogging space at the front, all in my head though at the moment!


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it does perform both tasks.
works like than in a lot of VWs

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