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Has anyone here bought a set of these yet. The guy's had a few set's on at once so I guess he's making them. Don't look bad for the money?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-998-Con-Rod...=item1c2ef71f64


John

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I wouldn't.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.


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Ask yourself; why are they so cheap? I like the look of them though..

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



gr4h4m

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What will they give you over standard? I'd spend 1/2 the money on arp bolts for your std rods.

If you're going for massive power /high rpm your build is going to be £££££ so why risk the rest of it for a set of rods from an unknown source?

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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They don't look very light, which is the whole point

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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There is a big anti-rod movement on this site. And I don't understand why.

A few years ago, a rod this cheap would be impossible. The cost of design and manufacture would mean even £800 would be a minimum cost.

But it's not so difficult to use an existing design, modify it to your dimensions and get some knocked out.

Has anyone got any horror stories of this type of rod? or is it all internet myth?

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Personally i wouldnt buy them but their manufacturing is probably better controlled than original parts, I spin modified standard ones upto over 9000 rpm so would these not manage that? Its only because theyre unknown really

I seriously doubt it!


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I don't thing it's an anti rod movement.

I think people on here think twice because most of us have been burnt on sub standard so called quality parts, from most of the mini retailers. These are just an unknown that makes people hmmm, a bit.

The only way to know is stick a set in and see what happens? But my point was, this site in general, champions using std parts where applicable and not advocating pub talk.

So std 998 rods have worked well at high hp? So you would move to h beam in extreeme cases where your build is going to be mega bucks so like using arp, you would want to stick an known make in?

It's all just opionion I guess and I know nothing, but it would be my reason.


Who knows until someone sticks out their neck.....

On 6th Jan, 2013 wil_h said:
There is a big anti-rod movement on this site. And I don't understand why.

A few years ago, a rod this cheap would be impossible. The cost of design and manufacture would mean even £800 would be a minimum cost.

But it's not so difficult to use an existing design, modify it to your dimensions and get some knocked out.

Has anyone got any horror stories of this type of rod? or is it all internet myth?

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


fastcarl

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the first thing that struck me about these rods was the apparent ommision of the cap locating step/recess, i always beleived this was there to take the strain off the rods as the cap is angled,

without this location for the cap thew rods must surely be under bending loads,

they do look nice enough but why so cheap, you would have to be setup for making lots and lots of these and pay a machinist peanuts to stand any chance of a profit,

Edited by fastcarl on 6th Jan, 2013.

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Well I have asked the seller some questions like how heavy they are etc.

See what he says

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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Answer so far still no idea of how heavy they are:



As you can read on my description these are the
Real thing I made them a couple of years ago for
Jon speed racing there were 12 sets made and I was let
Down on them so just trying to sell them they were
£200 per set but not a lot of interest so lowered the price
And now have one set left everybody who has bought them
Is really impressed with them

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


fastcarl

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leeds/wakefield.

a bit non commited there isn't he lol.

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On 6th Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
a bit non commited there isn't he lol.


The fact that he is avoiding the real question, suggests these rods are either equal to, or fractionally lighter, or heavier than a standard rod.

Again, the whole point of an after market rod is that it is lighter than the standard rod, but retains the same or greater strength. what else is there other than custom length?

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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540 grams per rod apparently.

He couldn't tell me the end-to-end balance figures though.


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On 6th Jan, 2013 Carl S said:
540 grams per rod apparently.

He couldn't tell me the end-to-end balance figures though.


Trick answer.

Is that with or without bolts?

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


Paul S

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We seem to be suffering from a plethora of mechanics with CNC machines and no idea of how to properly calculate stresses, cooling rates and all manner of critical design parameters.

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If he made them for Johnspeed, that is enough for me to steer well clear

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On 6th Jan, 2013 Ben H said:
If he made them for Johnspeed, that is enough for me to steer well clear


Thats what I thought!

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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I remember the original thread on The Mini Forum, and I was guilty of calling these Chinese. I saw my arse with that one, but it does go to show that if they made 12 sets, and they still have four sets 5 years later, that they are not exactly the hot cakes they hoped they would be

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 6th Jan, 2013 Sprocket said:



On 6th Jan, 2013 Carl S said:
540 grams per rod apparently.

He couldn't tell me the end-to-end balance figures though.


Trick answer.

Is that with or without bolts?


Without bolts.

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