Some advice about N/A MG Metro cam
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Gents,

I need some advice about a N/A MG Metro cam for sale.

I asked the seller to send me some detailed pics of the cam which can be found below. Those it looks good to you guys? He is asking 100 Euro for it, is this good or is it over the top.

http://s1353.beta.photobucket.com/user/min...html?sort=3&o=0

http://s1353.beta.photobucket.com/user/min...html?sort=3&o=1

http://s1353.beta.photobucket.com/user/min...html?sort=3&o=2

Thanks in advance

Rene

That is expensive, you can get them for around £40 posted usually, but I am not sure whether you are in the UK or not (I would assume not though).

Hi Amp,

I'm living in the Netherlands, they are unfortunately not so common over here.

Rene

For a bit more euro's you can buy a new cam.

there is nothing wrong with a A-series that a turbo can't fix.

www.turbomini.nl

Edited by paneermeel on 18th Jan, 2013.

there is nothing wrong with a A-series that a turbo can't fix.

www.turbomini.nl

True, I didnt start the price negotiations yet

This is true. Have a look for a Kent 500. Basically the same cam.

http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

A man without a project is like a like a woman without a shopping list.

Like this:
http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/...k%20to%20search

To be honest that one you showed us looks a bit worn to me, but I am no expert.

http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

A man without a project is like a like a woman without a shopping list.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that that cam is a re profiled cam.

ask the seller to measure the lobe lift, and then compare it with the information here http://www.mlmotorsport.com/forum/index.php?topic=11.0

measure the lobe lift using a digital caliper. place the caliper around the base circle of the lobe and then zero the measurement. Now rotate the cam to find the peak lobe lift.

Hi guys,

Thanks for the advice, I let it go, it looked quite worn to me as well.

The kent 266,sw05 and the mg cam shafts are near as makes no difference the same profiles. There's some small differences in the lsa and lca figures but if your looking to put it in a turbo application the lift at overlap, opening and closing timing and durations are pretty much identical. Each of the above is superior to the others in different areas but as with all engine builds its what your looking to do which will decide which cam delivers the qualities your looking for. Those who disagree flame away.

Own the day

Just had a good look at the third link and if my eyes are not deceiving me the case hardened tip of that lobe has worn through. Compare that image to the lobes in the other two pictures and you will see what I mean. On the evidence of the photos give this cam a wide berth.

Own the day

Thought the Mg was a 256 profile? I've been corrected on that before.

BTW That's a question, not a 'flame'. Whatever a 'flame' may be...

^^^^^^^^^

would that qualify as a 'flame'?

Looks more like facts backed up with data to me...

Wondering how the 500 compares

Duration........
The 266 is 260/270
The SW5 is 244/244
The MG is 252/268
The 500 is 252/268

Overlap........
The 266 is 53 degrees
The SW5 is 28 degrees
The MG is 45 degrees
The 500 is (dam can't work it out, all the info is here - http://www.kentcams.com/product-details/17...500-Mild-Road/)

Lobe lift..........
The 266 is ~6.68/ 6.81mm
The SW5 is ~ 7.14/ 7.14mm
The MG is ~ 6.68/ 6.68mm
The 500 is 6.67mm

http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

A man without a project is like a like a woman without a shopping list.

Duration........
The 266 is 260/270
The SW5 is 244/244
The MG is 252/268
The 500 is 252/268

Overlap........
The 266 is 53 degrees
The SW5 is 28 degrees
The MG is 45 degrees
The 500 is 45 degrees
Lobe lift..........
The 266 is ~6.68/ 6.81mm
The SW5 is ~ 7.14/ 7.14mm
The MG is ~ 6.68/ 6.68mm
The 500 is 6.67mm


From a practical point of view, the 266 does not drive as well as the 500 IMO

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

So like I said, get a kent 500, bob's your knob.

http://www.twin-turbo.co.uk
http://www.hillclimbandsprint.co.uk/default.asp

A man without a project is like a like a woman without a shopping list.

well, thanks for the advice again.

Actually it was always the idea to use a 266, only the MG cam passed by on an advertisement site, and that's how I got interested. I searched the forum to get some more info about the MG-cam and found out that it was quite a good cam as well for the turbo Mini's.