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![]() 730 Posts Member #: 1791 Post Whore Cranleigh, surrey |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 02:28:35pm
There are so many options these days.
"Cars are a lifetime of pain" |
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313 Posts Member #: 9367 Senior Member Derby |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 02:42:58pm
Depends on your budget and how hard wearing you want it to be. Also looks. |
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![]() 730 Posts Member #: 1791 Post Whore Cranleigh, surrey |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 02:54:33pm
its more about the longivity and what the end product looks like. i.e. does it have the look of a cheap laminate or does it look like real wood? I am looking at stuff up to £20 per sq/m really.... "Cars are a lifetime of pain" |
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272 Posts Member #: 9125 Senior Member Sheffield, South Yorkshire |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 03:35:30pm
Do you have under floor heating? If so forget real or engineered, wood is a very good thermal insulator so you wont feel the benefit. Engineered is another man made floor, it uses MDF etc as a base layer and then a real wood top, of around 2-3mm. Your best option is to go real and get as thick as you can. 18mm is most common and generally has a top surface of about 5mm. This will allow you to sand and re varnish etc. so for look and life span i would always go real. The turbo build has finally started |
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![]() 730 Posts Member #: 1791 Post Whore Cranleigh, surrey |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 04:56:49pm
no underfloor heating, we do have a existing wood floor, pikey flooring (as i like to call it) otherwise known as parquet. Peaople say that needs to come up first, but its been down since 1970 and is stuck down with bituman. can't i just go over the top?
"Cars are a lifetime of pain" |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 04:58:50pm
I have Karndean http://www.karndean.co.uk/
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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313 Posts Member #: 9367 Senior Member Derby |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 05:09:44pm
Is that stuff a bit like amtico will? |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 05:24:09pm
Not sure what amtico is. This is 'planks'of thick textured vinal. They put a 3mm ply down first, then glued this on.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 05:48:14pm
I've put solid wood over the original loor boards to cover up where the plumbers and sparks had taken them up using axes...
On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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1713 Posts Member #: 8480 MS Paint flat cap champion & Morris Ital Lover From Sheffield now live in York tha noz |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 06:31:34pm
On 22nd Jan, 2013 apbellamy said:
I've put solid wood over the original loor boards to cover up where the plumbers and sparks had taken them up using axes... Still looks good 2 years later On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today. On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet ? The Morris Ital assassin! |
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 07:11:16pm
I'm serious that's all I can think that they have used. The floors you can't get under easily are a right mess. Shame really as the hall has come up a treat with a good sand and varnish. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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1713 Posts Member #: 8480 MS Paint flat cap champion & Morris Ital Lover From Sheffield now live in York tha noz |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 07:36:09pm
I know mate, I have seen some of the said butchers at work smashing boards into kindling, thing is taken up properly, they are much easier to put back down, as a responsible contractor(lol) I use me circular saw for boards under carpet or even my fein if its a floor to be stained ect.
Edited by oli79 on 22nd Jan, 2013. On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today. On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet ? The Morris Ital assassin! |
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493 Posts Member #: 3894 Senior Member sallys gap. garden of Ireland |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 08:33:01pm
My Fein popped its cloggs at the weekend putting the customers house into darkness.Doh! I was only half way through the door frame too, had to finish with a handsaw 8mm from the floor, got some strange looks!!
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493 Posts Member #: 3894 Senior Member sallys gap. garden of Ireland |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 08:35:53pm
On 22nd Jan, 2013 oli79 said:
I know mate, I have seen some of the said butchers at work smashing boards into kindling, thing is taken up properly, they are much easier to put back down, as a responsible contractor(lol) I use me circular saw for boards under carpet or even my fein if its a floor to be stained ect. Hows work for you at the moment OLI? Things are very up and down here in Dublin at the moment |
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1713 Posts Member #: 8480 MS Paint flat cap champion & Morris Ital Lover From Sheffield now live in York tha noz |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 08:40:48pm
Fooking shite if I was waiting for the phone to ring, but its that time of year so no great suprise, luckily I have a pre christmas stack of stuff to do and a big job to fall back on but it needs to pick up next month. I hope things pick up for ya
On 22nd Jan, 2013 1972-ANGUS said:
On 22nd Jan, 2013 oli79 said:
I know mate, I have seen some of the said butchers at work smashing boards into kindling, thing is taken up properly, they are much easier to put back down, as a responsible contractor(lol) I use me circular saw for boards under carpet or even my fein if its a floor to be stained ect. Hows work for you at the moment OLI? Things are very up and down here in Dublin at the moment On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today. On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet ? The Morris Ital assassin! |
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493 Posts Member #: 3894 Senior Member sallys gap. garden of Ireland |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 09:02:33pm
On 22nd Jan, 2013 oli79 said:
Fooking shite if I was waiting for the phone to ring, but its that time of year so no great suprise, luckily I have a pre christmas stack of stuff to do and a big job to fall back on but it needs to pick up next month. I hope things pick up for ya On 22nd Jan, 2013 1972-ANGUS said: On 22nd Jan, 2013 oli79 said:
I know mate, I have seen some of the said butchers at work smashing boards into kindling, thing is taken up properly, they are much easier to put back down, as a responsible contractor(lol) I use me circular saw for boards under carpet or even my fein if its a floor to be stained ect. Hows work for you at the moment OLI? Things are very up and down here in Dublin at the moment |
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![]() 6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 09:52:46pm
engineered wood should not have an mdf core, i'd class anything with mdf as laminate, not engineered. Engineered generally has a ply base layer with a wood veneer top surface.
On 22nd Jan, 2013 liam mini 35 said:
Do you have under floor heating? If so forget real or engineered, wood is a very good thermal insulator so you wont feel the benefit. Engineered is another man made floor, it uses MDF etc as a base layer and then a real wood top, of around 2-3mm. Your best option is to go real and get as thick as you can. 18mm is most common and generally has a top surface of about 5mm. This will allow you to sand and re varnish etc. so for look and life span i would always go real. Turning to the original question, do a lot of research with local suppliers. There is a huge diferential in quality and cost. I'd anticipate you'll get a reasonable engineered timber for your money Edited by Rob Gavin on 22nd Jan, 2013. |
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![]() 1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 10:11:17pm
take semi massief if you like the look of real wood. (4 to 6 mm massif glued to 12 mm plywood) if it doesn't Mather you can take laminate but know that your under floor needs to be almost flat or the lami will float since you use no nails or glue. on the semi massif you can tak a nail in the groove so its not visible from above. (hope this makes sense i am a carpenter here in belgium but translating it in english...) but for around 20 pounds you should be able to get the semi massif and you can oil that up so if water go's on you can more easy wip it of than when you put a clear varnish coat on it . (because the oil repels water) and is easier to maintain than varnish. you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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![]() 1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 10:12:48pm
28 m2 is small space... can do that in 1 day at 1 person. (although we tend to do it in 2 days ... more money in the pocket) you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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493 Posts Member #: 3894 Senior Member sallys gap. garden of Ireland |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 10:43:59pm
On 22nd Jan, 2013 Rammie2000 said:
take semi massief if you like the look of real wood. (4 to 6 mm massif glued to 12 mm plywood) if it doesn't Mather you can take laminate but know that your under floor needs to be almost flat or the lami will float since you use no nails or glue. on the semi massif you can tak a nail in the groove so its not visible from above. (hope this makes sense i am a carpenter here in belgium but translating it in english...) but for around 20 pounds you should be able to get the semi massif and you can oil that up so if water go's on you can more easy wip it of than when you put a clear varnish coat on it . (because the oil repels water) and is easier to maintain than varnish. |
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493 Posts Member #: 3894 Senior Member sallys gap. garden of Ireland |
22nd Jan, 2013 at 10:46:15pm
SSSHHHuuussshh Rammmie, not so loud!!!
On 22nd Jan, 2013 Rammie2000 said:
28 m2 is small space... can do that in 1 day at 1 person. (although we tend to do it in 2 days ... more money in the pocket) |
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![]() 6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
23rd Jan, 2013 at 09:04:36am
what your describing as semi-solid, I'd class as engineered |
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250 Posts Member #: 1615 Senior Member Ferndown, Dorset |
23rd Jan, 2013 at 07:51:32pm
On 23rd Jan, 2013 Rob Gavin said:
what your describing as semi-solid, I'd class as engineered correct for £20 per sqm i think you can rule out engineered, karndean or amtico. i would be looking at a higher end laminate tbh. if you say the current floor is the same height as the next room, i would take the existing up and give it a swipe over with some latex smoothing compound to kill off the wood block glue. by doing that you would have a much flatter transition from room to room. however you would get away with going over it with a floating floor i.e engineered or laminate. On 1st Mar, 2009 MikeRace said:
Hmmm weberyyy On 21st Apr, 2009 madcatminis said:
I hope she's got knickers on or you'll have a funny runny mark on your bonnet. Quite like what a snail leaves behind. |
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![]() 1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
23rd Jan, 2013 at 09:08:02pm
On 22nd Jan, 2013 1972-ANGUS said: Rammie is talking about what we call Semi Solid, and makes a good point. This has a real wood layer of between 4 and 9mm over a cross multi layered combination of different woods and plys which provide a neat solution to having a real wood surface with a cost effective base. These can be glued or nailed to the subfloor for added security, wheras the lam is only sitting on a foam film that can flex/depress and reduce the quality feel. On 22nd Jan, 2013 Rammie2000 said: take semi massief if you like the look of real wood. (4 to 6 mm massif glued to 12 mm plywood) if it doesn't Mather you can take laminate but know that your under floor needs to be almost flat or the lami will float since you use no nails or glue. on the semi massif you can tak a nail in the groove so its not visible from above. (hope this makes sense i am a carpenter here in belgium but translating it in english...) but for around 20 pounds you should be able to get the semi massif and you can oil that up so if water go's on you can more easy wip it of than when you put a clear varnish coat on it . (because the oil repels water) and is easier to maintain than varnish. ![]()
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![]() 1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
23rd Jan, 2013 at 09:09:54pm
sorry. eeermmm hmmm thats quit a big space comme to thinck off it. eu:umm lets say 2 or 3 days of work On 22nd Jan, 2013 1972-ANGUS said:
SSSHHHuuussshh Rammmie, not so loud!!! We still need to make money, these vultures will hold you to that QUOTE, lol On 22nd Jan, 2013 Rammie2000 said: 28 m2 is small space... can do that in 1 day at 1 person. (although we tend to do it in 2 days ... more money in the pocket) you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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