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Chris-G

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I'm new to this forum and have recently purchased a complete turbo set up from richturbo on here. Just trying to gather all info needed for when the engine goes in.

I'm at a cross roads at which/what engine management to run. Most people seem to run Megajolt which seems reasonably priced. I was wondering if anyone uses Omex 200? It looks the dogs but is of course much more expensive.

I'm not all that worried about the cost of either, I just want the simplest and easiest set up to install and work with. The chap I use for rolling road swears by Omex and so do my friends who have also got it installed on their road cars (not mini's).

Basically, has anyone used Omex on their turbo set up and against the Megajolt, is there any main advantage?

Thanks!


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Wolfie used omex iirc, seemed to work well, most people use megajolt, megasquirt and emerald. Personally I will going to use megajolt for cost but possibly megasquirt ms3x as I have some friends in the states and can get it for arround 300 gbp

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I had omex 200, its a good bit of kit the downside is no online help or forums to help when mapping unlike megajolt and megasquirt

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Chris-G

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I'm more tempted by the Omex as everyone I've asked pretty much has said its very good. Do I need a TPS and MAP as that is what I understand from their website?

Ive only heard good things about their help to be honest. In the worst case they are only up the road from me so I can knock on their door!


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I used omex, Very easy to tune, but there all much of a muchness, with the knowledge on here though, if i were to do it now, i'd go megajolt/megasquirt route.

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What type of injection are you planning?

1) 5-port head siamese code
2) 5-port head standard code
3) multiport head with 4 inlet ports

I would only use MS for option 1 to be honest.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Rod S

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If 5 port and ignition only then surely either Megajolt or any of the other ignition only options.

Although some of the injection systems provide a lot better logging facilities for ignition only even if you don't want injection.

But Wil, I'm confused....

On 29th May, 2013 wil_h said:
What type of injection are you planning?

1) 5-port head siamese code
2) 5-port head standard code
3) multiport head with 4 inlet ports

I would only use MS for option 1 to be honest.


If it was an injection setup, I think MS is the only one that can do all three options.

Agreed it's a bit more DIY (and hence a lot cheaper) than the others but, as well as the special siamese code (your option 1), and batch, or wet manifold, injection (your option 2), it does fully sequential 8 port both from the MS2 (with a very small modification) and MS3 (straight out of the box).

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wil_h

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Yes it will do everything. What it does especially well is siamese port injection. All other ECUs will cope with 2 and 3. And Having used MS and other ECUs I found the others better for various reasons.

Some I'm sure are worse, but I have just never got on with my MS. Personal opinion really.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Omex also offers idle control, by varying spark advance, according to target rpm and water temp, but you will need a TPS sensor and water sensor. Also you don't need the ford Edis Module (unlike MJ), but you will need to either buy ormake a suitable loom. If going the omex route Id also use a air temp sensor to retard ignition at extreme high boost temps, to safe guard against det.

If using omex, you can still replicate MJ maps, by scaling the software to match. There are plenty of MJ maps floating around on this site.

Edited by alaskanow0 on 29th May, 2013.

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On 29th May, 2013 Chris-G said:
The chap I use for rolling road swears by Omex and so do my friends who have also got it installed on their road cars (not mini's).

Basically, has anyone used Omex on their turbo set up and against the Megajolt, is there any main advantage?

Thanks!


You've answered your own question.

If your chosen tuner is happy with the Omex, then you should be taking his advice as he will be tuning it.

That isnt to say anything negative about the Megajolt. The bottom line will be keeping whoever is tuning it happy. If you choose a setup they arent prepared to work with, then you're on your own, or you need to find someone who will work at it


There must be a good half dozen or more ignition only options these days though at varying prices.

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Chris-G

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Thanks for all the replied guys. Im not really at all familiar with this side of building the car, hence why i sway more towards the Omex side as it seems a little more 'plug and play' than the Megajolt. The car is non fuel injected 5 port so which ever i go for will only be ignition only. I may ring Omex and get a real costing (as there website is a little unclear). Im sure i will have many more questions about this!!


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Having used a few different ones, not Omex as it happens, on the ignition side there is little to choose between any. Cost varies a lot and I don't believe in this case that you get what you pay for.

I am amazed that people are still going down the route of choosing an ECU based on what the local tuner is used to. In this day and age any half decent tuner should be able to get his (or her) head around a new interface to tune an engine. The art is in knowing how to get the best not what buttons to press. And lets be honest tuning ignition is not difficult on any modern system.

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Agree, however if paying by the hour, having their preferred ECU, can save time and money, as knowing all the short cut buttons is a god send. To be fair this is more on fuel and ignition mapping.

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