Comparison between USA and UK drag strip tickets...
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Ok a few things to first note:

1) On the UK run I had a basically 'empty' car - no tools or anything. On the USA run I had (at a guess) 40/50kg of 'ballast' (total car weight according to the scales at the track was 1860lb / 843kg incl driver).

2) The UK time was not my best ever (13.856@101), but a typical time.

3) The car was exactly the same spec as per the time it raced in the UK - the clutch was on its last legs but seemed to 'just' hold up on the track, so is pretty much 'as is'.

4) The car was sipping 93 octane (Ron+Mon/2) fuel on the USA runs, 98 octane fuel (Ron) in England. No real difference noted.

5) The USA track is approx 1000ft above sea level - not sure about York or avon, but I recall Manchester is something like 100ft above sea level.

6) Air charge temps on the USA runs were typically 5-7 degrees hotter than the runs at Avon Park 2004.

7) Finally - The USA run was pretty much a 'perfect' run regards traction and launch - the best I did all night at the strip.


So - with all that in mind, here is the ticket

Edited by turbodave16v on 18th Jul, 2020.

FINALLY some proof that they're no different. the USAians are just better at it than us!

my 60ft times are soooo bad!!

so dave, I'm guessing you weigh around 60kgs? so your car is around 730 kgs. My car is arond 160kgs lighter, why are my times so bad! I need to learn to drive I think!

Team Racing

hmmm, not thought about that.

I'm 92kg I recall... So taking out 92kg and 45kg of ballast, that makes my car 705kg... I recall it was heavier than that

Edited by turbodave16v on 11th Jul, 2005.

that makes my times even worse!
will be interesting to see what times you run in my car on the weekend.
just for the record, my car is 569kg's

Team Racing

jim what are you 60ft times?

why the ballast ??

Everyone knows that instructions only have to be read if the thing doesn't work....

Yes when you told me i was shocked, but there's the proof they are very the same, you did well though..

"The USA track is approx 1000ft above sea level - not sure about York or avon, but I recall Manchester is something like 100ft above sea level. "

your poor car must have had a job beathing . lol

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

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my 60ft times are 2.4 - 2.5 seconds

Matt what where your 60ft times?

Team Racing

Think he's up around 2.8 as I recall...

yes Dave your about on the money. My best before last weekend was around a 2.9, but i think i did a 2.6 some thing when i got my best time. i'll have a look. so jim your times are much better then mine mate.

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

http://www.mattwoodsphotography.com

jim my black one does 2.4s...

Dont think that will tell you much thou!

AlexF

1.6 and 1.7 s for me ,ha ha .

losers.

carl

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well Carl we never expected to be there up with you.

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

http://www.mattwoodsphotography.com

If you aren't getting 2.2-2.3 seconds consistently in your turbocharged mini you just need to practice more and/or maybe try a different lauch strategy - it's that simple!!!

I knew Carl would be along to show us up!

lmao carl..

"If you aren't getting 2.2-2.3 seconds consistently in your turbocharged mini you just need to practice more and/or maybe try a different lauch strategy - it's that simple!!! "

is that aimed at me Dave??

Are you saying my 2.9 diff isn't a good drag diff LOL.

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

http://www.mattwoodsphotography.com

hey dave ,i didn't know you could see my nob from where you are sitting,lol.

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I can't - but I've got a picture of you at the side of my desk if that helps....

Hey Carl - what kinda 60ft's were you achieving with your green lightweight?

Edited by turbodave16v on 11th Jul, 2005.

lol

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

http://www.mattwoodsphotography.com

Matt - I reckon a 2.95 with 10" wheels and a prostigeous amount of torque and a suitably strong clutch will launch quite nicely!

ie - you need to practice more!

Edited by turbodave16v on 11th Jul, 2005.

dame i was hoping to blame it on the diff

that's a good point though.

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

http://www.mattwoodsphotography.com

dave , my green car is no lightweight ,but pulled 2.4/5 60ft at the showdown in 99 .and 2.2 and 2.3 all day long in 2000.[i just looked] ,i had an open diff fitted albeit shagged ,plannet gears chewing into casing ,so worked quite nicely at keeping both wheels spinning together at launches .
not a very power full engine but would rev to 9k in the first two gears on a 3.44 diff and 7300 down the m62 to brighouse..
i once pulled a 1.56 at the pod on a photo day for minimag with just the front engine ,now that was a strange feeling.
carl

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hmmm @ carl...

I guess 13 inch road tyres at full pressure isnt the way to get grip! lol

Alex

Edited by AlexF2003 on 12th Jul, 2005.

AlexF