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![]() 673 Posts Member #: 1395 Post Whore chepstow |
21st Oct, 2013 at 01:28:37pm
I am after a bearing which has odd sizes. It was manufactured by NTN but the last one they made was in 1994! I have tried various bearing suppliers and searched the internet with no luck.
Edited by mayoturbo on 21st Oct, 2013. |
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Site Admin ![]() 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
21st Oct, 2013 at 01:34:39pm
I can't see the pics, but often automotive manufacturers make things difficult and use non standard bearings.
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![]() 673 Posts Member #: 1395 Post Whore chepstow |
21st Oct, 2013 at 01:43:40pm
On 21st Oct, 2013 Tom Fenton said:
I can't see the pics, but often automotive manufacturers make things difficult and use non standard bearings. What car is it off, can you get one through the dealer network for the car? Although annoying often there isn't an option. It is from a Daihatsu Charade DeTomaso (Japanese import...) The LSD isn't fitted at the moment because this bearing has play. Daihatsu only supply complete with the driveshaft £586.85 which is back order from Japan. |
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1909 Posts Member #: 9764 Post Whore Northamptonshire. |
21st Oct, 2013 at 02:50:52pm
Think itsd Kettering Bearings give em a google they might be able to get you one or make you one |
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![]() 69 Posts Member #: 7124 Advanced Member emsworth somewere near portsmouth |
21st Oct, 2013 at 02:55:05pm
Whenever I need bearings that my motor factors cannot get I've always used these guys, they have always bin good for me and prob will post.
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614 Posts Member #: 2153 Post Whore kings langley |
21st Oct, 2013 at 03:54:16pm
I use stateline bearings 01442212696 give them the dimensions and they will usually call u back within the hour with some prices Speeding is like masturbating, everyone does it, but not all of us film it and put it on the internet
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![]() 673 Posts Member #: 1395 Post Whore chepstow |
21st Oct, 2013 at 05:01:02pm
The bearing is not a standard size, probably a one off made for a Daihatsu?
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![]() 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
21st Oct, 2013 at 06:02:15pm
Looks similar to what hondas have cant comment on size but maybe worth googling Yes i moved to the darkside |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
21st Oct, 2013 at 06:28:31pm
This is clearly a "special" (oem's do this all the time).
Edited by TurboDave16V on 21st Oct, 2013. On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
21st Oct, 2013 at 06:40:24pm
oh, and you need to prise the oil seals off and determine exactly what kind of bearing that is....
Edited by TurboDave16V on 21st Oct, 2013. On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
21st Oct, 2013 at 06:45:22pm
Before you go and tear it apart however - why does it need replacing? is it obviously gritty, siezed or damaged? If it is just "tight" try putting it in the oven on low for a few hours (to allow the grease to flow once again) and it might feel a lot better. On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
21st Oct, 2013 at 06:59:27pm
There is a place in swindon that does bearings give me a sec ill find the info
Edited by Paul R on 21st Oct, 2013. Drives
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![]() 673 Posts Member #: 1395 Post Whore chepstow |
22nd Oct, 2013 at 05:31:31pm
On 21st Oct, 2013 TurboDave16V said:
This is clearly a "special" (oem's do this all the time). You need to give us more info for a solution however. Can the housing be machined larger? Is there a circlip groove in the bearing or the housing? Is there a circlip groove in the shaft? Looking at the SKF product tables (a great reference btw) I would estimate that the existing bearing was something like a 25Kn equivalent rating. You can get a 35x62x14 with a 17Kn rating. Other option would be doubling up, using a pair of 35x62x9 and a new OD collar to go from 62 to 65mm. The axial loading (if any - a review of the current bearing location will reveal this) needs to be considered also. Finally - I'd be wary of finding a bearing that "fits" and calling it good. They all look the same foir sure, but there is a world of difference between an "economy" bearing and an SKF. If you found a "no-name" bearing, it might not have anything like the "balls" (LOL) of what it needs to take the loading that this support shaft was designed for. If you can find New "old-stock" SKF bearing races on ebay, or are willing to spend on these premium components at your local distributor, you will probably be in a better place down the road. http://www.skf.com/us/products/bearings-un...-row/index.html The bearing is held in with a circlip and there is on circlip on the driveshaft. I have taken the seal off the bearing and it is a single roller bearing! ![]() the housing it fits in: ![]() The driveshaft and housing: http://s28.photobucket.com/user/mayoturbo/...html?sort=3&o=2 Thanks for everyones help so far |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
22nd Oct, 2013 at 08:44:13pm
I am confused as to why a single roller would be 24mm wide and have that aspect ratio. Did you pull the seals off both sides?
On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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432 Posts Member #: 7856 Senior Member Essex |
22nd Oct, 2013 at 08:48:47pm
In the spirit of linking bearing suppliers, the ones recommended to me is BRT:
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3593 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
22nd Oct, 2013 at 11:10:17pm
Is there not a part number on the bearing ?
9.85 @ 145mph
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![]() 673 Posts Member #: 1395 Post Whore chepstow |
23rd Oct, 2013 at 07:35:26am
On 22nd Oct, 2013 TurboDave16V said:
I am confused as to why a single roller would be 24mm wide and have that aspect ratio. Did you pull the seals off both sides? It doesn't look like there is any room to machine the housing, and as 65mm is a non standard od, you may as well look at 35id and 62od options. Yes took both seals off, only a single roller. There isn't any room to machine the housing so I'll get a 35mm I/D 62mm O/D bearing as you suggest. |
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![]() 673 Posts Member #: 1395 Post Whore chepstow |
23rd Oct, 2013 at 07:38:59am
On 22nd Oct, 2013 stevieturbo said:
Is there not a part number on the bearing ? There is, I contacted NTN with the numbers and the last one was made in 1994! |
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3593 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
23rd Oct, 2013 at 09:42:48am
Ahhh lol, does it cross reference to anything else ?
9.85 @ 145mph
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
23rd Oct, 2013 at 05:31:43pm
Is it a ball bearing or a cylindrical roller?
On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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![]() 673 Posts Member #: 1395 Post Whore chepstow |
24th Oct, 2013 at 07:45:21pm
Ball bearing. I will guessimate the ball diameter tomorrow and have a look. Thanks |
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![]() 5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
25th Oct, 2013 at 09:51:14am
On 23rd Oct, 2013 TurboDave16V said:
I guess I still don't comprehend why it'd be so wide. They had their reasons, but that is not at all obvious I agree, it doesn't come close to anything standard in my SKF book. Two wild guesses, 1 - Because of the harsh environment (rain, salt, mud, etc) they wanted a better seal than the normal metal or rubber types which meant the bearing had to be wider. 2 - Because of the harsh environment (rain, salt, mud, etc) they wanted to pack more lubricant in it so it had to be wider. If either of the above are the reason(s) it obviously didn't work as the bearing failed. If I was being slightly more cynical it would be they did it to ensure you couldn't buy a replacement bearing alone (not easily anyway) and hence have to pay an extorsionate price for the whole assembly from the OEM ![]() Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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Site Admin ![]() 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
25th Oct, 2013 at 10:12:55am
On 21st Oct, 2013 TurboDave16V said:
This is clearly a "special" (oem's do this all the time). Why is this Dave? Is it just to fuck up the bloke 15 years later who wants to replace the bearing, or what!!!
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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