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Good evening folks. after searching your forum and gathering some info i was wondering if some of you more experienced could tell me if im right wrong or sailing for aus with the info ive gathered.

so ive been wanting to do an engine build for some time now but have never had time or resources. was going to do a 16v swap bought a k1100 rs head and donor block,crank and rods but the shear amount of machining has made me reconsider due to some horror stories of bad work in my area.

Car will be used as a summer toy does around 2000-3000 miles a year would like 120-140bhp


Ok so plan would be to ditch all the mpi parts and only keep fuel tank and gearbox which i would rebuild.

i have a 1275 metro block so re-bore it to 1293cc with 10cc dish pistons (anyone got recommendations)
turbo phil head or similar
crank regrind.
1.5 rockers
turbo carb
t2 or saab gt17 would i be correct thinking these are best for low down torque)
apr conrod bolts and standard rods.
mega jolt maps sensor version

so could anyone point me in any more directions on what i should be searching for or reading up on

cheers


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The problem with using an MPi car is that the emissions regulations are really strict and you may struggle to meet them with a carb.

Your only other option is to make sure you keep the donor engine number and prove what year it was manufactured/sold in originally. You would then be tested on the emissions for the year of engine rather than car.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Yes i had read this, when it comes to proving that im assuming i have to apply via some long drawn out process?


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Nah. Put the engine number into guessworks engine number calculator.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Cheers mate. appreciate the info


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easy to kid the emmissions on just! make the engine go lean on tickover by creating a small leak on the inlet manifold (ie) pull a vacume pipe off on the inlet manifold or create a 1mm orafice just for the mot reasons.






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On 10th Dec, 2013 BENROSS said:
easy to kid the emmissions on just! make the engine go lean on tickover by creating a small leak on the inlet manifold (ie) pull a vacume pipe off on the inlet manifold or create a 1mm orafice just for the mot reasons.


wont work, and your in a daze if you think it will. This is an MPi car therefore 1st August 1995> A carb will never pass the emissions test for which the car has to pass. The VIN number is used to determin the specific emissions limits, not the engine number. The VIN denotes which engine is fitted from the factory. http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=462092

Andy has it right, use an older engine with the original engine number (many many more of those about than the MPi) and be sure to instruct the MOT tester that the engine is older than the car. Print off one of the numerous lists of engine numbers floating about the internet, but in my experience simply showing them that the engine number suffix of the MPi or even SPi does not match the engine fitted should be all that is needed. That information is freely available in the Rover Workshop Manual, and is probibly as official as its going to get!

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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double post, sorry

Edited by 100ev8 on 10th Dec, 2013.

http://www.fishfight.net/


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get an engine (complete of course) tag from a early car with logbook and they have to test to age of engine

http://www.fishfight.net/


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Cheers Sprocket, i have a metro block that has a tag back up home.

next question would be is there any resources that have a fairly good complete list of what i will need. more specific info such as part numbers. Obviously there are many different opinions on specs etc but would be nice to get a nice organised pats id need to source. get an idea of costs etc.


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colin all the mot shops i have gone to over many years and NOW the mot monkey never looks at the engine, he checks the brakes etc . . . . if alls well there then shoves the pipe up it, if it dont pass just pull another car on the ramp job done *Jester* .....lol, but if you dont know them you have to resort to the book i suppose, there are many jobs worthes *laughing*

Edited by BENROSS on 10th Dec, 2013.






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On 10th Dec, 2013 BENROSS said:
colin all the mot shops i have gone to over many years and NOW the mot monkey never looks at the engine, he checks the brakes etc . . . . if alls well there then shoves the pipe up it, if it dont pass just pull another car on the ramp job done *Jester* .....lol, but if you dont know them you have to resort to the book i suppose, there are many jobs worthes *laughing*


Thats the whole point Steve, they DON'T look at the engine, its all done off the registered VIN.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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works wonders for me when i take all the crates of ale for chrimbo next week ....lol

they are all short sighted *laughing*





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