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steve w

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I'm going to have a go at a side fed plenum as well the itb setup I have on the go.

Done a fair bit of searching, but does anyone have a definitive answer on plenum size?

I've heard 1.5 x capacity mentioned.

Is that the capacity of the plenum it's self, or with the runners aswell?
Is that the minimum size, or optimum?
If I wanted something more universal for future, is it better to lean towards it being bigger?

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Joe C

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as I understand it the plenum needs to be a big enough resovoir to fill the cylinder totally, this needs to take into account any ram/pulse effect pushing past 100% VE, i think 1.5 is used as a safe bet that wont be huge.

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Joe C

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Carlos Fandango

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and the 1.5 is just the plenum, not the runners too.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Ben H

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I made a plenum recently and hunted round for help. There is a lot of conflicting infomation out there. My plenum was for a 750cc engine so at 1.5 capacity this was a tiny plenum and not really ideal. In the end I just made it so the trumpets fitted and it fitted in the space I have available. It ended up about 3.5l, which is quite small in reality when you consider the voulme of air going through it at 10k rpm..

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Daniel

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Don't these plenum volume ratios relate to a true "plenum" which is on the intake side of the throttle?


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I've also found totally contradicting information on ideal volume, some said 100% of engine says, 2x engine size some 50% of engine size. With all this info I assumed it didn't make much difference so went on what material I had available at the time.

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Concentrate more on the shape and the inlet entry. You want to avoid a design that favours airflow to some TBs at the expense of others.

Lots of ideas for this on the net.

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the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
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On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Make two different sizes and do back to back tests!

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