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AlexF2003

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1)

REALLY good article on gearboxes by AC Dodd... lots of pictures and useful hints.

2)

Theres a mini on the RR shoot out that made 170 bhp (bananas).

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I have seen it - nice car! *wink*

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yea i saw that, seems dodgy rollers look at the spec lol


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Gearbox article was rubbish.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



AlexF2003

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Care to explain Vegard?!

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Ace cover mini I'm likin that custom pic of it aswell
mabye we could get our minis picturized like that!
(please say were talking about the one with the title "WILD THING")

Edited by Super Adam on 8th Aug, 2005.

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up for Vegard's comments...

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On 02/08/2005 21:54:40 AlexF2003 said:

Theres a mini on the RR shoot out that made 170 bhp (bananas).

Alex

The matt lamb one made 170 nanars then a car with exactly the same tech spec got 130 nanars!

whats going on?

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Matt's car is now my car :0)

The Spec in a mag is not the exact spec of the car!

Think forged pistons, hybrid t3, super head, huge IC, lots and lots of love went into it!

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Its your'e car!*surprised*
I didnt know it was for sale!

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It was a few months back... I brought it on the day of that RR!

It was advertised on here lol

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On 10/08/2005 15:48:27 AlexF2003 said:

up for Vegard's comments...

alex


First of all, it doesn't mention any of the REALLY important stuff.
Laygear clearance, and bearings, nor the problem of the small idler bearing inside the first motion shaft. These are the most important when rebuilding the box.

Second, picture 11:
quote:" most rod boxes require sealant rather than a gasket" BOLLOCKS!
This must be the most boxes in possibly 1993, not most rod boxes. Most boxes use GASKETS!

Thirdly, picture 19:
quote:" Consider a niminal 0.003 inch gap to be the minimum to give a good service life.
This must be good service life for the next 24miles. 0.003 is SERIOUSLY little.
I usually aim for 0.040 to be the least gap.

Fourthly:
Why can't the mainshaft bearing be reused? It's the biggest and most decent bering in the box. The article doesn't mention any of the other bearings that need replacing. This including the idler... Strange.

Finally, checking the idler clearance without fitting the transmission housing to the box with the correct gasket is useless. Gaskets are not of consistant thickness. They wary quite a lot. This means one have to take 10 measures of the gasket before settling what to use. Also,all the gearboxes are not of the same "thickness" either.

Has anyone one here ever had trouble with weak selector springs in the syncro hub?
I've never had any trouble with these.


On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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Re the comments - Every A+ box I've seen has RTV rather than gaskets...

Never yet experienced a broken / weak synchro spring, but for the pennies they are to replace, and given that they'r constantly under compression, they will - arguably - weaken over many years and cycles of operation. How much totally depends on the quality of the spring in the first place. I guess if they're cheap enough, replace. I never do - but always compare the free-length and give them a little squeeze to see if any are ridiculously weak.

The large bearing in the box - well these are usually the first to let go let's be honest. If I was doing a regular 998 tranny, and this bearing looked fine under detailled inspection, I would re-use - same with any bearing. I always replace it whenever my engine and box are apart however, no matter what...

Can't comment on the 'thirdly' as I've no idea what is being discussed. Initially I thought laygear, but it can't be if 40 thou is being stated by Vegard...

Given most of what I've seen of adrian's work, it'll be a pretty good guide I suspect?

Somethign I'm too aware of; You have to account for the mag staff reducing the number of words - often changing the 'meaning' or intent of a statement unintentionally as a result. Typo's also happen.

Anyone want to scan and send to me?

Edited by turbodave16v on 11th Aug, 2005.

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AlexF2003

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All 12 of the boxes I have use RTV.... not seen gaskets at all to be honest.

Most people hammer the centre bearing out... I wouldn't reuse it after that. I wouldn't even if taken out with EXTREEM care... they usually are the 1st bearing to fail IMO.



"Has anyone one here ever had trouble with weak selector springs in the syncro hub? "

Yes most boxes that pop out of gear are due to this! You can make 1st/2nd changes feel very nice with some stiff springs :)

Maybe things are differnt with nasty A+ boxes :)


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I've only worked on three or four A+ boxes, and all of them has gaskets. We've got to remember that there was rod boxes before A+ as well.

I just feel for the right click on the syncro hub. If it clicks positively, then thy're OK.

Number three is synchromesh ring to gear clearance.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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So you've seen broken weak springs in the many A+ gearboxes you've rebuilt Alex?

In every A+ one i've done - Never seen a broken spring. *oh well*

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AlexF2003

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seen a fair few really soft ones... 1st give away is the dull clack of the hub, rather than a nice sharp click.

Not loads, but enough to warrant changing them.

Adrian measure them as they are SHITE quality... a good one takes about 4kgs just b4 coil bind, but some goto 5ish. Other manage 1!! A bit range, hence AC tests them, hes a bit anal like that!

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