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seahuston

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So I've found some good resources on removing the brake servo and going to the GMC227 master cylinder.
I'm doing this mostly out of vainity (I hate the look of the servo) and to save engine bay space.
In reading through the threads, it sounds like there is a need to do something about the servo brake pedal. I'd prefer to get a bit creative and not replace the pedal or pedal box by either enlarging the clevis hole in the master cylinder or, more desirable, bush the smaller clevis pin.
There has been conversation about this:

But I haven't actually heard of anyone doing it. Has anyone done modifications to avoid swapping pedal or box?


DILLIGAF

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Cut it out and use one of these, as the original riveted version is NLA.

Doh forgot the link

http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/...ack%20to%20shop

Edited by DILLIGAF on 24th Apr, 2014.


seahuston

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I understood that the GMC227 master cylinder has a smaller hole than the servo one. Are you suggesting to take this clevis and cut the plastic to use as a bush for the pedal?


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I made a bush for the pedal on the latest one.

A lot easier than changing the pedal.

EDIT: But it did not work..... change the pedal

Edited by Paul S on 14th Sep, 2014.

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Isn't there a differance in pedals ?

Can check tonight as have both servo and non-servo in the garage.

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sorry to drop in here but not want to start a new topic for a simple question. i want the servo gone to but its a belgian ( left hand drive) so we have a tube going underneath the dach rail going to the right hand side to operate the servo. would it be posible to just remove the servo and put a brake cilinder on there? and which would be the best for god braking ( going 8.4 inchh discs with 12 inch banded steels)

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Yeap, the pedals are different.

I welded my servo pedal hole up and re-drilled the hole to reduce its' size to suit the new master cylinder. I made sure to use the same hole centre location and the master cyl wouldn't retract far enough on release of the pedal.

Swap the pedal for a non-servo pedal. If you're nimble enough to climb into the footwell its really not that bad of a job.

edited for grammar

Edited by adcyork on 7th Aug, 2014.


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On 7th Aug, 2014 adcyork said:
Yeap, the pedals are different. I welded the servo pedal up and redrilled the hole to reduce its' size to suit the new master cylinder. I used the same hole centre location and the master cyl wouldnt retract faqr enough on release of the pedal.

Swap the pedal for a non-servo pedal. If youre nimble enough to climb into the footwell its really not that bad of a job.


we dont just have the pedal but also a bar that is going from the left side to the right side the pedal leaver itself does not come out of the car but pusches the bar and then on the other end of the bar a leaver comes trough from inside to the engine bay to puch the servo... ( in short we do not have a place on 90up cars to put a brake cilinder above the pedal itself) . may take some pics tomorrow.

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On 7th Aug, 2014 adcyork said:
Yeap, the pedals are different. I welded the servo pedal up and redrilled the hole to reduce its' size to suit the new master cylinder. I used the same hole centre location and the master cyl wouldnt retract faqr enough on release of the pedal.

Swap the pedal for a non-servo pedal. If youre nimble enough to climb into the footwell its really not that bad of a job.


we dont just have the pedal but also a bar that is going from the left side to the right side the pedal leaver itself does not come out of the car but pusches the bar and then on the other end of the bar a leaver comes trough from inside to the engine bay to puch the servo... ( in short we do not have a place on 90up cars to put a brake cilinder above the pedal itself) . may take some pics tomorrow.

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018


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Sorry, i should have realised from your location that it's a LHD car. Lets see some pics


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Keep hold of the left hand drive pedal box etc. People with vtec engines pay good money for them.

Just get a standard pedal box.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018


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you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018


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you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018


Rammie2000

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I would love to just rip it out and replace it but the mini's on this side of the great north sea and of that build year just don't have the holes to get a regular pedal box in.

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018


apbellamy

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A standard pedal box will go straight in there.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Not to keep it LHD it won't!

I would think the bellcrank rod will remove from the cross bar easily enough, then you'd need to sleeve/bush the hole where it connects to suit a master cylinder clevis & pin.


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Use a pedalbox for a lhd car from "70/"88 non servo model.
Straight swap.Will fit without any modification.
Pm me if you want one. Nl-BE is easy.

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yeah clubbie that would be a nice thing but like i said i do not have the holes on the left side like a pre 90 model. ( first time i have seen a mini who only has the steering hole on the left instead of bouth sides and brake holes on the righthand side instead of left and right) i have a pedal box so if the holes were present i would just swap them. but ill try it like graemec says and mod the bar to take a brake cilinder.

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018


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That would be a first.
Even mpi models have the holes.
So unless there's messed with the body..there should be there.

But your clutch reservoir has been mounted there in the past.. so there is at least 1 big hole and 2 smaller..
So copy-ing is easyier already.

Don't know what your engine plans are.. but with rover/vauxhall engines it's better to have the reservoirs on the left as far as i've seen. RHD is often struggeling with resrvoirs/engine space.

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Edit: LHD pedalbox with servo is very diffrent to a LHD pedalbox non servo.

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i have the hole for the clutch pump yes. if the rest is welded close it was a verry verry good job. car has been in to bare metal and didn't notice anny welding there ( there was no rust there so didnt realy study on that side neighter) any way ill try the mod that graemec sugested first if it does not work out ill see what the vtec people want to do with the pedal box and rip it out. did make me curious why they need that lhd box so badly.

the engine is a remote turbo set up. just dont like the servo sitting so close to the turbo so it has to go. much neater to. and some weight saved there.

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018

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