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Paul S

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I'm looking for a set of 10" wheels suitable for a Mk1 style car. So something like a Minilite, Dunlop D1 or Mamba style.

However, I don't want to fit arches and I want to use 165/70-10 tyres. Brakes are vented 4 pots at the front and spacered Superfins at the rear.

Can anyone confirm an option that will fit within the wheel well without the need for arches to cover exposed tread?

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Don't think you can fit anny within the arch without covers with this set up

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These are what you want

http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/...ack%20to%20shop

Designed to fit as you want, not sure about your front brake setup.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Nothing comes to mind apart from 4½" genuine Minilites with an S offset.

Anything 5" and above is iffy at best, and the brake selection will also push things outwards, which rules pretty much everything out.

Metric is for people who can't do fractions.


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Minispares minilife you can just squeeze without arches, I ran them with my Fiesta 7.9's, I'm not sure they would fit with my Kad's as the Kad's are tight on a set of Carls wheels.

but they are out of stock
http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/...ack%20to%20shop

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Mambas won't fit unless the brakes are 7.5s

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Paul S

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Looks like Minispares Minilife or the Rose Petals are an option but either out of stock or lots of dosh.

The front discs will be 7.5" and at this point in time could be vented or unvented. I have both sets of discs and the caliper spacers, if needed.

At this point in time, I just need to know if going arch-less is possible and I can prepare the bodywork accordingly.

I think I'll try and sell something to pay for the Rose Petals, start of with unvented discs and upgrade if possible.

Thanks guys.

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for the look the rose petals will be worth it... even if they are a tad on the expensive side... it will be worth it, the wheels really make a car, IMO

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Paul S

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I've just had a study of the likelihood of the tyre tread being outside of the arch and it would appear that the narrowest bit of bodywork is just above the rear bumper. If the tread is going to be exposed then that's the worst point.

Anyone failed an MOT for exposed tread?

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Get some cheep steels with rubber band tyres for the test. If it's not too noticable on the road chances are you will be fine.

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mine were more over the edge than not as using the Fiesta brakes the drive flanges pushes the wheels out and I passed the chrome trim stuff did help a little.

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I have another mini that ive just fitted 7.5 brake conversion n 5x10 minilite style alloys from midland wheel supplies n they just fill to the arch perfectly....

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On 19th Jun, 2014 Paul S said:

Anyone failed an MOT for exposed tread?


yes with sports pack arches and 13x7s 5mm exposed if that looking directly down

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Paul S

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Right, Rosepetals it is *happy*

Does the difference in the different types of Rosepetals available actually matter with a road car?



or



£200 extra for the Minispares ones.

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The minispares ones are a faithful reproduction, with the correct off-set etc . The midland ones are a copy of those. If you want a genuine wheel to go on your perfect Mk1 mini buy the MS ones. If you want to save £200 and have pretty much the same look go to MWS.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Paul S

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Will, my thoughts exactly.

They are both quoted at ET40 offset, which is about as high as you can get. Potentially an issue with clearance on certain calipers but I'm sure I can work around that.

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Personally, I'd spend the extra on the Mini Spares wheels instead of the MWS ones.

Some of what I've been told isn't for public consumption.

Metric is for people who can't do fractions.


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Well, issues that would concern me are:

Quality of material affecting strength
Casting porosity affecting sealing
Casting accuracy affecting balance
Weight

If it's any of those then I'll wait.

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My wheels stuck out miles before and not once did a copper look at me funny or pull me for it, I'm sure it's more a law matter than an mot matter, but I'm not going to risk it again, most of the reason was that I couldn't decide on what arches I wanted! Shauna's stick out maybe a couple mm on 3.5x10s on 7.5 discs and that's been fine.

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I hate the arches of the tyres law. If it wasn't for that I'd love an old hotrod. Open wheels ☺

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Mk1 forum had a thread about the qauilty of midland wheels vs Minispares rose petals, the general view was the Minispares ones look better, finish is better and quality material and appendix K Approved too


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Add camber like the cool kids to to get their wheels in, other option possibly is to try and flare the arches? Then you can still run without arches but have the clearance for wheels you like.

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All fine is you drive a 1198 golf.....

On 24th Jun, 2014 Paul R said:
Add camber like the cool kids to to get their wheels in, other option possibly is to try and flare the arches? Then you can still run without arches but have the clearance for wheels you like.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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I've been thinking about putting some d1s on my car but I'm not sure if they would poke out too much or not :(

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A mate had a set from MWS running 's' discs and needed a spacer to clear which comes with the wheels. As a consequence he then needed arches to then cover the exposed tyre.

Not heard anything regarding the Mini spares ones

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