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Flicking through mini mag n see a pic of a track rod end bolted on top of arm (facing down, nut.underneath) now ive always gone from underneath? Isnt it tapered? Have seen this before and wondered?? So thought id throw it out to you guys n gey thoughts n answers

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Brett

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that is weird the nut should be on top like you say, and it is tapered
i have seen this taper drilled out before to move the track rod up and down for better suspension geo ( but im sure it always goes lower )

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Around here they sometimes do it to... its been told that if the nut comes of it can't drop out so you can still steer...

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I would have thought on a lowered car it would increase bump steer. Maybe wrong


Joe C

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erm.. so if you put it in the other way how does it hold in the taper....

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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On 27th Sep, 2014 Joe C said:
erm.. so if you put it in the other way how does it hold in the taper....


tighten the nut really really tight and hope for the best.

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LOL... er no thanks!!

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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D4VE

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So it is correct from underneath!? There is a taper that way... mounting from on top is wrong.. and just so i know what is bump steer n how would mounting it that way add to it? Many thanks for all your replys as ive wondered this before

On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol

NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! *tongue*

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Joe C

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yep mount from the bottom into the taper,



as the suspension moves through its travel there will be an element of steering, if the suspension geometry is moved away from standard, then this usually means the amount of steering per suspension travel is increased, this can usually be countered by moving the rack or track rod ends up or down, somthing like a few mm is often enough,

its all a compromise though.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



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Unless the taper has been drilled the other way or drilled out and a non standard track rod fitted, that's pretty dangerous, it wouldn't physically fit in the other way round so some modification has to have been done. Splitting the track rods can be bad enough some times, that's all the security you'd need. But then they are fitted with nylocks.

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Joe C

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yeah, if your that woried about it coming adrift.... drill it and use a casle nut and splitpin

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



Rob H

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Swap the left & right steering arms over so the taper goes the other way?

Edited by Rob H on 27th Sep, 2014.

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graemec

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That would compound the bumpsteer even more though - the arms drop down normally so it you swapped them they'd go up. Plus you'd have to lose the locating dowels from the hub/arm


Rob H

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Good point, well that's me out of ideas

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Brett

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i knew a similar subject had been up before
http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...id=320885&fr=25

google this ' mini steering rack rose joint ' and select pictures, brings up a good few pics, i knew it was lower it meant to go, to help combat torque steer presumably more beneficial on a lowered mini

Edited by Brett on 27th Sep, 2014.

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Brett

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dug these out too from when i was researching suspension geo

from memory these came from a vaux powered mini and could potentially have a moved steering rack


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