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7th Dec, 2014 at 12:55:04pm

Hi

I'm going to be swoping my brakes from metro to KAD 4 pots soon so i'll be changing the metro hubs back to mini hubs.
I've got adjustable suspension all round and the the car is lowered. At what height should I think about fitting some bottom ball joint spacers? I want to get it all set up so would like to fit them before, and while its all in bits.


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Josh

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7th Dec, 2014 at 05:04:13pm

I wouldn't bother at all. They increase the scrub radius, make the steeriing heavy, ad massive camber change to the suspension and made my car impossible to drive.

Maybe ok with an open diff like the migs use.

I wouldn't go lower than having the bottom arm level at rest. Then get it all nicely set up.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


JT

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7th Dec, 2014 at 05:38:48pm

Ok thanks will.

Is there any other bits worth getting? Its all new ball joints, rose jointed adjustable bottom arms, rose jointed adjustable tie bars, hi los, protech dampers.

Is it worth fitting the lowered type damper brackets? I already have them on the shelf :)

Thanks

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7th Dec, 2014 at 08:31:25pm

Yes definitely fit the damper brackets. Also, if you're going that low you'll the hardest rubber doughnuts on to keep it reasonably firm. Yellow dot is the hardest.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


JT

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7th Dec, 2014 at 11:11:55pm

Cheers will. Im not going mad but it will be low.

I've got red dots but I wont fit them until I fit the turbo engine and change the subby to the reinforced one I've made. I have genuine new ones fitted for now.

Thanks for your help :)

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8th Dec, 2014 at 09:57:41pm




On 7th Dec, 2014 wil_h said:
Yes definitely fit the damper brackets. Also, if you're going that low you'll the hardest rubber doughnuts on to keep it reasonably firm. Yellow dot is the hardest.


You don't fit hard springs because the car is low. You fit hard springs because you use heavy wheels or have a very heavy car????

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.

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9th Dec, 2014 at 12:25:26am

you fit hard springs when you have no suspension travel *tongue*

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9th Dec, 2014 at 10:43:57am

No, the problem is that as the car gets lower the top arm has les vertical movement in relation to the wheel movement. Thus the spring rate is effectively reduced.

The harder springs make up the reduction in 'real' spring rate.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.

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