special spghetti manifold group buy
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Hi guys
I went today to talk with a guy who have a high experience in exhaust and manifolds (he built porsches biturbo spevial manifolds and exhausts , he Have designed and built peug 205 turbo 16 ones, renault 21 turbo production ones etc etc,
we talked about a spaghetti equal lengh runners manifold to support a garret T2 over the clutch casing, and then a large strimlined downpipe to join a std mini exhaust like a maniflow etc etc
he asked me 600$ for a prototype and then about 350 / 400 for a groupbuy with a minimum of 10 units ,
I'm waiting your reaction, feel free to ask any question,any comment, etc
cheers
fab
ps: i'll try to post some picies

Sounds superb. so that $350/400 US dollars? Just want to get the conversion sorted thats all.

Im thinking of mirage manifolds but other alternatives would definately be good and that does sound a very good idea. Intercooler plumbing would also be much easier i feel.

Lets see the pics, if yoy need them hosting email them to me and ill put them up.

iain at turbominis.co.uk

Fab I may be interested, put me down as a maybe.

Would you get more lag with these manifolds as the turbo is further away?

Team Racing

a?e,
sorry about the conversion guys, it's not ?, but the thing just over (?),
about the lag, it will not increase as the lengh is still short, what it'll do it's to accord the exhaust pulses, and so use hem with more efficiency also it will be a lot more flower, a reputed turbo expert wrote( I think it was corky bell) that the separate runners have the same effects on a turbo set up than on a n/a one.
my reason, are :
more efficiency,
a better place for the turbo than between the bloc/carb/and bulkhead
an easier intercooling possibility,
a lot more exhaust flow at any rev,
also the downpipe will be something like an hks design, with a separate pipe for the waste gate ( also reduce back pressure and flow (please Jim if you kept the pics of the downpipe could you post hem,)
remember that it's still a project even if the design ,bores and lengh are quasi ended ,I can only make them produced if we rich a certain quantity, my only interest in the thing is to have a beautifull manifold( and not the ton of welded pipes that I started to build) a lower price than if I would have ordered only mine , also I will not make any comment or comparison with the mirage kit;
fab

Here you go fab

Edited by Jimster on 21st Jan, 2004.

definitely sounds interesting, would it be a bit like the janspeed manifolds that can be seen in vizards book?

i guess you would also be able to mount the filter straight onto the compressor housing like you can on r5's

shame can't get a pick of one before saying yes/no

if you can hold of any more info it would be appreciated

dan

It does sound very intersting, the only question i can really think of is how would the carb mount? would it stay on the standerd inlet manifold with a pipe from the turbo to the carb or would there be a diffrent form of inlet manifold, hope you under stand what i mean, thanks Alex.

There's no reason why you cant keep the standard carb and inlet. It would only be the same as fitting an intercooler to a mini, basically complete the loop from turbo to plenum. It should be easier as you can work left to right rather than having to run backwards and forwards to the same point if you get me.

Love to see some pics. Im very interested.

Still not sure about what you mean about the price though fab?

Hi guys
about the design, it will approach the Janspeed design, as I'll try to connect the first and third runner with the same lengh as an lcb,but will differ in the rest of the design.
about the carb mount a std metro turbo will fit, but better any of the aftermarket inlet will fit (minispares , maniflow etc)
about the air inlet it will face to the front of the car allowing a cooler charge and also an easy connection to the intercooler.
about the price it's easy, if I ask only one (called a prototype), the guy want 600? to study , make the manifold and the downpipe frame and then build the manifold, if we ask more it will then reuse the welding frame , but bend and weld more pipes, and this decrease the price, it's why he ask 600? for one and 400? for about seven , and 350? for tens.
Can you see the pic of the 205 spaghetti manifold?
fab