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 1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
15th Jul, 2015 at 10:19:25pm
so i have some crown wheel laying around that were in a box i once bought many moons ago...
you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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 428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
15th Jul, 2015 at 10:24:40pm
Edit. No, See article below... Edited by e5tus on 16th Jul, 2015. |
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428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
15th Jul, 2015 at 10:26:25pm
Almost certainly all originally used as 3.44:1
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 696 Posts Member #: 10034 Post Whore Birmingham |
15th Jul, 2015 at 10:38:39pm
On 15th Jul, 2015 Rammie2000 said:
so i have some crown wheel laying around that were in a box i once bought many moons ago... it seems they have 62 teeth... so if i understand correct i can get 3 pinion wheels to match that crown wheel? 15 17 18 teeth? so those 3 are interchangeable without the risk off getting the tooth jammed? greets No, I don't think they're interchangable - you need to check the part number on the gear; Check this article here... From the article: "Some gears have the same tooth count for different ratios, they are not interchangeable - hence the need for different part numbers…. ONLY use in known pairs A+ and pre A+ gears are not interchangeable as they have a different tooth profile." |
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428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
16th Jul, 2015 at 07:26:28am
In that case, ignore my bollocks! Glad you pointed out that article Phil, I'm just about to sort my FD. |
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1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
16th Jul, 2015 at 08:10:01am
On 15th Jul, 2015 e5tus said:
Almost certainly all originally used as 3.44:1 What FD are you considering? Ill look at the numbers. Well i have a 3.11 on a minisport 4 pin diff now that is was going to use in the turbo. And maybe was going to change to 3.44 if they are usable for that. Still i read up both ratio's are pretty popular for turbo minis ( do remember it to be a bit long for my na back in the days) you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
16th Jul, 2015 at 08:11:19am
Thanks a nice morning read.
On 15th Jul, 2015 PhilR said:
On 15th Jul, 2015 Rammie2000 said:
so i have some crown wheel laying around that were in a box i once bought many moons ago... it seems they have 62 teeth... so if i understand correct i can get 3 pinion wheels to match that crown wheel? 15 17 18 teeth? so those 3 are interchangeable without the risk off getting the tooth jammed? greets No, I don't think they're interchangable - you need to check the part number on the gear; Check this article here... From the article: "Some gears have the same tooth count for different ratios, they are not interchangeable - hence the need for different part numbers…. ONLY use in known pairs A+ and pre A+ gears are not interchangeable as they have a different tooth profile." Edited by Rammie2000 on 16th Jul, 2015. you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
16th Jul, 2015 at 10:45:24am
The only pinion/crownwheel that can be interchanged are the A+ 3.1 and 3.2 ratios On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 7265 Posts Member #: 1268 The Boom Boom speaker Police! Essex |
16th Jul, 2015 at 11:14:41am
Minisport x pin is utter shit. In the 13's at last!.. Just |
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1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
16th Jul, 2015 at 05:45:36pm
why utter shit? i always seen it as the only good thing comming from them. i have been ridding it previously for 80000km without problems on a 1310 na. you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
16th Jul, 2015 at 06:38:52pm
No one on turbo minis would ever recommend one as tgere have been failures. There have been no failures of the minispares x pin as far as i'm aware. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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940 Posts Member #: 1424 Post Whore Carnforth, Lancs |
16th Jul, 2015 at 07:17:28pm
On 16th Jul, 2015 Sprocket said:
The only pinion/crownwheel that can be interchanged are the A+ 3.1 and 3.2 ratios Not according to the tables on the MiniSpares site. The following ratios use common pinions (1 line per pinion part number): A-series 3.65 & 3.76 A-series 4.1 & 4.2 & 4.3 A+ 3.65 & 3.76 A+ 3.1 & 3.2 |
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696 Posts Member #: 10034 Post Whore Birmingham |
16th Jul, 2015 at 10:03:53pm
That all seems to tie in with the link above, except for...
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1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
16th Jul, 2015 at 10:34:42pm
hm. it seems that all this could use some investigation. you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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696 Posts Member #: 10034 Post Whore Birmingham |
16th Jul, 2015 at 10:49:39pm
... Or cable ties; Keep them paired up and never worry about it again! |
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940 Posts Member #: 1424 Post Whore Carnforth, Lancs |
17th Jul, 2015 at 06:42:23am
On 16th Jul, 2015 PhilR said:
That all seems to tie in with the link above, except for... A+ 3.65 & 3.76 The link above suggests that A+ 3.65 & 3.76 pinions are not interchangable as there are 2 different part numbers for the A+ 17 tooth pinion. The article seems to be a reprint of Keith Calver's work, which ironically leads back to the Minispares site. A few other sites seem to confirm there are 2 different part numbers, so perhaps, the only A+ pinion/crownwheel that can be interchanged are the 3.1 and 3.2 ratios The table in that article is all fucked up - there are pre-A+ part numbers in the A+ columns. There's another table on MS site that is clearer: http://www.minispares.com/catalogues/class...box.aspx?1~4~39 A-series 3.65 & 3.76 uses 17 tooth pinion - 22A399 A-series 4.1 & 4.2 & 4.3 uses 15 tooth pinion - 22G99 A+ 3.65 & 3.76 uses 17 tooth pinion - DAM4131 A+ 3.1 & 3.2 uses 19 tooth pinion - DAM2808 Edited by graemec on 17th Jul, 2015. |
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1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
17th Jul, 2015 at 07:54:58am
I have them paired up now. But it just seems there are many different opinions about what can be mixed or not. With me the crownwheel states dam.... and 62/18 so dont think it can be mixed up with othzr pinionwheels.
On 16th Jul, 2015 PhilR said:
... Or cable ties; Keep them paired up and never worry about it again! you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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696 Posts Member #: 10034 Post Whore Birmingham |
17th Jul, 2015 at 08:16:37am
Also take a look at the guessworks site to compare ratios...
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432 Posts Member #: 7856 Senior Member Essex |
17th Jul, 2015 at 03:28:12pm
I thought i'd add in one of my bookmarked pages to the thread...
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