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clubbie70

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Hi all

got problem with oil leak between block and head

head and block skimmed; commetic headgasket ,arp 11 stud head bolts
engine run for about 100 miles..
everything new and now ther is a little oil loss at the head gasket

(commetic head gasket shouldnt have to be retorqued)

advice is welcome

Rob


Joe C

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what surfave finish are you running, cometics should be run on a surface ground block and head IIRC,

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Oil leak from the head? Where exactly?

There is only one oil seal in the head where the oil feeds the rockers- at the rear on the thermostat end.

Is it actually the rocker box gasket?

Edited by wil_h on 10th Nov, 2015.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


clubbie70

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most of the oil is at the back of the block...entire lenght


clubbie70

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Nope its not the rockerbox thats leaking its defenately the head gasket

@joe C what exactly do you mean with that....???


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I bet it's not.

I've been confused by this many times. If it's right across the back it's almost definitely the rocker gasket.

It's just not possible (well I've never seen it) for it to be from the head gasket, it's not really an oil gasket.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


clubbie70

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nope def not....using a silicon rockercover gasket and is dry

comes from headgasket javascript:void(0)

Edited by clubbie70 on 10th Nov, 2015.


clubbie70

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Edited by clubbie70 on 10th Nov, 2015.


Joe C

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with the steel gaskets, if you have a slightly rough finish for example from milling, they can weep.

just checked and they recomend 50 RA or smoother...

http://www.cometic.com/technical.aspx

milling can be this good, bit sometimes isnt, a surface grind will ensure it is.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



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There are many porous cork rocker gaskets on the market, had this myselfe and a know a few people who have had the same, minispares do a rubber rocker gasket, fit that and its sorted rob






wil_h

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Would this really affect the oil seal between the head and block?

On 10th Nov, 2015 Joe C said:
what surfave finish are you running, cometics should be run on a surface ground block and head IIRC,



The head gasket has fire-rings, loads of water sealing and a single copper crush washer (usually) for the oil feed to the head. If oil is coming out all over the back of the engine, it must be a failure of the single oil seal and then the rest of the head gasket; allowing oil to run down the join and escape across the back. How it could do this without the water coming out to is perplexing.

IMO,if it was leaking oil from the head gasket, it'd be pissing water everywhere as well.

Sorry to not believe you, and I'd be happy to be wrong, but I've seen it too many time (people saying the head is leaking oil and it's the rocker box, I've done it myself!)

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


clubbie70

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https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/68KX7...feat=directlink



some pics ....oil leak

Edited by clubbie70 on 11th Nov, 2015.


wil_h

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There is plenty of oil above the head/block join; even around the manifold flange.

Looks like its coming from above the head join.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


clubbie70

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https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/94eZ_...feat=directlink


not trying to be right in any way . Infact i would be happy to be wrong *wink*

Edited by clubbie70 on 11th Nov, 2015.


wil_h

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ok, interesting

What does the manifold gasket look like?

Is there oil in the exhaust manifold?

I's obviously coming from somewhere. I just can't see it's from the head gasket.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


clubbie70

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https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/94eZ_...feat=directlink

no oil in the manifold
manifold gasket had some leakage on the exhaust ports


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I once took and engine out for a bad oil leak in that area and it turned out to be the rocker box gasket !!


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Its not necessarily leaking from directly above where you see it - oil could be leaking at one side, or even the front, and tracking round (especially once its in that nice gap between head and block for capillary action to take place)


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Are you absolutely sure it is oil and not Coolant?

The turbo water feed runs right under the center exhaust port and there is a bit of a blobby weld that might have a pin hole?

Just thinking outside the box here.....

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Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


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Yep I agree with TD........

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