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2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
4th May, 2016 at 09:55:01pm
Anyone know any tricks on bypassing/removing the immobiliser? A friend has a 90's sidewalk spi n i believe the immobiliser talks to the ecu? Is this correct? His fobs are not communicating to the alarm to turn it off so stopping playtime! On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! 1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
4th May, 2016 at 10:27:13pm
Depends on the year..... 90's is a bit vague lol as they nade minis in every year lol.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
5th May, 2016 at 09:08:23am
Off top my head its a 96? M/N reg? I think hes said the chips in the fobs are goosed.. i shall forward what youve said on to him ta On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! 1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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696 Posts Member #: 10034 Post Whore Birmingham |
5th May, 2016 at 09:45:20pm
See the response to my question here...
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
5th May, 2016 at 10:02:22pm
They do talk, or at least one way. The alarm ecu sends a code to the engine ecu. Only the lat model SPi and onwards have it. These cars are easily identifiable with the 24way fuse box in the engine bay. The body loom to engine loom connector has an aditional wire not on earlier models, for the code transmission, colour white/grey. Its only one way, alarm ecu to engine ecu. The engine ecu listens for the code. Without it, or the wrong code, ecu functions are inhibited. The alarm ecu serves as a simple imobilizer too, cutting the starter circuit. Edited by Sprocket on 5th May, 2016. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
5th May, 2016 at 10:06:37pm
On a side note, a lot of the K series tuners use the Emerald after market ECU's, as Emerald have cleverly included this imobilizer function, which can learn the code being transmitted, thereby retaining the imobilizer function if desired. Edited by Sprocket on 5th May, 2016. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
5th May, 2016 at 10:09:52pm
Doh.. so no easy way of just tricking the ecu into thinking the alarm is always off? I believe resyncing fobs is out of the question as 1's completely useless and the others circuit is now broken? But i shall get exact problems from him rather than all this off top my head.. poor guys minis stuck at his folks place On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! 1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
5th May, 2016 at 10:53:42pm
My car never had an alarm, but all the wiring is there. In place of the alarm ecu was a similar box with the same connector, but all it did was link through the starter circuit. The engine ECU was non coded.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
6th May, 2016 at 06:16:49am
Thanks have passed that link on On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! 1/4 mile 14.7 @ 96mph 12psi boost Showdown class A 2nd place 18.6 @ 69mph |
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108 Posts Member #: 9182 Advanced Member |
8th May, 2016 at 12:18:29pm
I bought a none running '96 SPi a few years back and had to do a lot of reserch about the immobilizer.The engine cranking can be bypassed but the ECU needs the programmed code.What I did find ( but can't find the link now) was a black box which pluged into the alarm plug ( sounds like Sprocket's) that bypassed the cranking and sent a code to the ECU automaticey when the ignition was turned on. My problem which is proberbly unrelated but did show up on a Rover technical bulleton was that somebody had "probed" the alarm connector and although power was at the plug it wasn't getting through to the alarm. Another problem when working on these cars is that all the available wiring diagrams listed for '95-'96 minis are wrong, the wiring for the loom with the 24 way fusebox is a combination of Spi '92-'94 and MPi. I have managed to reverse engineer the proper loom wiring diagram.
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