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 1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 10:16:56am
Ive hand me new engine running for 20 minutes with a new Innovate MTX-L wideband lambda gauge and the sensor is dead. I calibrated it prior to running and for the duration of the run it sat at 22.4, ive just tried to recalibrate it and now im getting E8 error code (sensor failure). Im kicking myself i knew i should have gone for the AEM gauge.
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 361 Posts Member #: 114 Senior Member Porto/Portugal |
29th Apr, 2017 at 10:55:11am
Have you test the sensor?
Pedro Silva
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 11:21:43am
I've recalibrated it in free air. Once he calibration has finished the gauge reads E8 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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361 Posts Member #: 114 Senior Member Porto/Portugal |
29th Apr, 2017 at 11:35:54am
Before you buy a new one, test the sensor...
Pedro Silva
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 12:18:58pm
How can I test the sensor? 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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361 Posts Member #: 114 Senior Member Porto/Portugal |
29th Apr, 2017 at 12:57:17pm
With a multimeter, if you have around 3 ohm between 3 and 4 pin, and around 100 ohm between 1 and 5 pin, the sensor is ok. Pedro Silva
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 01:14:48pm
Great thanks I'll give it a go 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 01:14:51pm
Great thanks I'll give it a go 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 01:14:54pm
Great thanks I'll give it a go 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 01:14:57pm
Great thanks I'll give it a go 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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 2974 Posts Member #: 10749 Post Whore lowestoft suffolk |
29th Apr, 2017 at 04:12:29pm
On 29th Apr, 2017 longy said:
Great thanks I'll give it a go Or 4... On 24th Oct, 2015 jonny f said:
Nothing gets past Dave lol NOTHING GETS PAST ME!! 
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264 Posts Member #: 11029 Senior Member Crewe |
29th Apr, 2017 at 06:08:32pm
LOL Outside the box |
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 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
29th Apr, 2017 at 06:24:40pm
If you can get an earlier LSU4.2 sensor, the gauge can be set to read that.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 07:11:46pm
I have heard that thanks Paul. how do i go about setting the 4.9 gauge to 4.2? 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
29th Apr, 2017 at 07:18:31pm
You need to hook up a laptop to the gauge and update the settings.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
29th Apr, 2017 at 07:21:00pm
Also sounds like you'll need to change the sensor cable as the connector is different. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
29th Apr, 2017 at 07:45:12pm
Cheers Paul, i'll cost it all up and see 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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33 Posts Member #: 9867 Member |
29th Apr, 2017 at 10:40:26pm
Mine used to come up with the dreaded E8 after a few minutes of running. I ended up updating the firmware and it hasn't happened since.
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3569 Posts Member #: 655 Post Whore Northern Ireland |
30th Apr, 2017 at 11:36:59am
On 29th Apr, 2017 Paul S said:
If you can get an earlier LSU4.2 sensor, the gauge can be set to read that. The problems seem to have started when they went over to the 4.9 sensor. Innovate have been problematic, long before the 4.9 even existed. Physically and practically they make good quality product, but by fuck they also have a lot of problems. Too many to make it worthwhile really. 9.85 @ 145mph
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1547 Posts Member #: 2727 Post Whore Bicester |
30th Apr, 2017 at 01:27:19pm
Just checked the sensor and I was getting 3.5ohms between 3 and 4, 102.5ohms between pins 1 and 5 so the sensor is OK 1972 998 TURBO SLEEPER |
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 (2)[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/150672766@N03/]Rod Sugden[/url], on Fli) 5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
30th Apr, 2017 at 04:12:08pm
On 30th Apr, 2017 longy said:
Just checked the sensor and I was getting 3.5ohms between 3 and 4, 102.5ohms between pins 1 and 5 so the sensor is OK Not necessarily - it is a fairly basic test and Innovate controllers are well known for not working with an LSU that is just slightly out of spec and reporting it as dead when it will work fine with another make of controller. First, as already suggested, reload/update the controller firmware - another reputation Innovate have is for their controller firmware getting corrupted. Then, the only sure way to see if the LSU is really dead is to plug it into another make of controller (one that is designed for 4.9s obviously) and see what it says. If it really is dead, the risk is the controller killed it so, although new LSUs are quite cheap now (esp. the 4.9s) you may just kill a replacement. But, back at the beginning you implied you have only just done this, so isn't it all under warranty ? Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
30th Apr, 2017 at 04:19:37pm
fucking innovate BAC's
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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 7261 Posts Member #: 1268 The Boom Boom speaker Police! Essex |
30th Apr, 2017 at 06:14:14pm
I really didn't get on with the Innovate wideband I borrowed from Joe. In the 13's at last!.. Just |
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 2091 Posts Member #: 9894 Post Whore Dorking |
30th Apr, 2017 at 10:23:19pm
Had one on another car and I ditched it for AEM. Keep throwing codes! |
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307 Posts Member #: 11231 Senior Member |
1st May, 2017 at 02:35:16pm
I had same problem with two Innovate sensors . The sellers wouldn't change them. |
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