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gr4h4m

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Hi all,

I replaced the rear wheel bearings on the car just after the last trackday, as the original bronze cage for the ball type bearings failed. I used a set of timkins. from Minispares, I haven't used it much as we were moving house.

The car went for a MOT recently and the noticed slight play in the passenger side rear. I had a look last night and noticed that the hub slid straight of the shaft by hand, I presume this means the shaft on the radius arm is dickered...

if this is the case my next issue is that they are Hydro arms, and the shafts are NLA.

Thanks for any help.

Graham

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Lock the bearings on with locktight.

A bit of a bodge, but a common fix (in my house anyway)

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


gr4h4m

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Chester

Is it a good idea?

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


shane

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locktite 638 bearing retainer, holds fast and requires a small amount of heat to dismantle,
Shane


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Just checking that it's ok to use it on the shaft?

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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I've used it on a shaft.

I'd give it a go, the worst case is it doesn't work and you're back where you started. No damage done.

When my bearing was spinning on the shaft the whole thing got really hot (as you'd imagine). Once glued it was normal temperature.

You're only trying to stop it moving on the shaft, the bearing is all nipped up by the hub nut.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Joe C

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another thing I have seen done is to use a pair of hammers like in pannel beating and go round the shaft to give it high spots to gve the bearing somthing to hold onto. probably easier and better to use the loctite though.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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Do the stub axels remove like they do on "dry" arms?
Two thoughts, (based on Joes comment re hammers) a small dose of a knuckling tool and a light cut to bring them back to size on a lathe may work, or have another made? There isn't a huge amount of machining involved?
Shane


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If you do get stuck in future with radius arms we occasionally get them in for reconditioning. https://minispares.com/product/Classic/tra30.aspx

Edited by t3gav on 27th Sep, 2017.


gr4h4m

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gav I looked at the link but the arm needs to have a good stub axel?

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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Hi Graham, +1 on Wil_h method that's how I fixed mine. Fine so far.
John


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Easy enough to have the radius arm bored and a new stub axle made if it comes to it. Carl could help.


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Thanks tom, I was chatting to Colin the other night and I checked the hubs over and the bearing is almost touching in the middle when you have the hub off the car.

The hubs look in good condition but I might try a new one to see if that nips it up. If not it could be a stack up of tolerances or a bad bearing

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VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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On 3rd Oct, 2017 gr4h4m said:
Thanks tom, I was chatting to Colin the other night and I checked the hubs over and the bearing is almost touching in the middle when you have the hub off the car.

The hubs look in good condition but I might try a new one to see if that nips it up. If not it could be a stack up of tolerances or a bad bearing


What about something like this behind one of the outer races?

https://www.thebearingcompany.co.uk/product...id_product=7314

Edit* not sure on actual size, link above is for suggestion only

Edited by Sprocket on 3rd Oct, 2017.

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Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
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Ooo thanks Colin, I will measure them up

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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So I followed up on Colin's thread, got some shims and a the thinnest one I could get in the correct size does the job, no play. I think the tolerance on the new bearings meant they needed a blonde one to fit...

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!


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ball bearings why not find here: https://www.tradebearings.com/ball-bearings-catalogue.html I bought it before, the price is very good. You can also check here for other models https://en.tradebearings.com/


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Maybe you need INA bearings from https://www.bearingforworld.com/ina/


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I have two OE hydro rear arms. Happy to push the stubs out. There must sitting there gathering dust

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