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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
4th Mar, 2018 at 01:14:22am
Hi again,
Edited by R.Rodrigues on 4th Mar, 2018. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
4th Mar, 2018 at 01:50:50am
Belt too tight, I've seen a broken cam due to a tight belt on an 8v before, don't over do it, there's a lot of leverage doe the the belt conversion. On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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6962 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
4th Mar, 2018 at 08:28:18am
do the pullies line up correctly with a straight edge, if they do then the head may be out of square to the block making the belt track across .
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
4th Mar, 2018 at 09:35:23am
Will check tension before as i set it by hand and could be a title to tight. Using the 1/64" per inch of span length.
Edited by R.Rodrigues on 4th Mar, 2018. |
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
4th Mar, 2018 at 10:12:15pm
Ok, short update.
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
4th Mar, 2018 at 11:14:17pm
Is the head sat parallel on the block? also, belt tensioner, the eccentric type, the roller should be on the trailing side of belt rotation. Definitely do not do these belts up tight. You know this to be true when the engine is running you hear unusual sound from cam pulley end. Reduce down oil pump jackshaft end float. also check crank end float is acceptable. Edited by Sprocket on 4th Mar, 2018. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
5th Mar, 2018 at 01:36:01am
On 4th Mar, 2018 Sprocket said:
Is the head sat parallel on the block? To be honest e cant remember if check that, i drill the block back in mids 2015, and that's wend i should have checked that, as for the face all went well end welding, light skim on both head and block. Crank end float is .08mm. So the tensioner its designed to work like 180º around? any problem running like it is? it not like I want it to last 100k km, just survive the short life of a modified Aseries build by me it fine. Will reduce end float on oil pump shaft to something like 0.08/0.10mm and check for the parallel whit block, then measure again before turning down the adapters. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
5th Mar, 2018 at 09:44:11am
Ahhhh!
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
5th Mar, 2018 at 11:11:46am
Tension the belt by rotating it up rather than down. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
5th Mar, 2018 at 01:05:52pm
and this ^^^ On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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Forum Mod 10979 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
6th Mar, 2018 at 03:35:52pm
I had the similar issue. My belt would walk from a 4/5mm gap to contact the head plate in two turns of the engine.
Edited by TurboDave16V on 6th Mar, 2018. On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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3004 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
6th Mar, 2018 at 04:28:51pm
That is not good news to me. I have just completed the assembly, using all SC parts, and have not noticed any "walk" on the belt but am a bit nervous on first startup now that this has been raised, especially as the engine is not for me but a very good friend, who financed it ! |
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Forum Mod 10979 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
6th Mar, 2018 at 05:09:59pm
If you see no walking when cranking with the plugs out, you’re ok I reckon... On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
6th Mar, 2018 at 07:59:57pm
I agree with that, On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
6th Mar, 2018 at 10:01:06pm
Have check head alignment and from the best I can measure whith a ruler and spacers, 0.20mm has the maximum value, nothing to worry about I think.
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3004 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
7th Mar, 2018 at 11:24:06am
Thanks TurboDave - reassuring because it has been cranked a lot to circulate oil. |
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
20th Mar, 2018 at 09:48:22pm
Little update, belt still tends to go outside the engine, after 8 to 10 turns I star to hear the belt rubbing on the crank guide.
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
20th Mar, 2018 at 10:41:06pm
hmmm,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
20th Mar, 2018 at 10:59:50pm
The test for angular miss alignment is to turn the drive system in one direction as the belt tracks from one side to the other, the more turns the better the alignment. Stop and reverse the rotation. If the belt still tracks to the same side, then there is an angular miss alignment. If on the other hand, the belt tracks back towards the other side, it's not angular miss alignment.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
21st Mar, 2018 at 12:02:14am
Will try to reverse rotation tomorrow to check.
Edited by R.Rodrigues on 21st Mar, 2018. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
21st Mar, 2018 at 12:07:49pm
mmm,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
21st Mar, 2018 at 03:09:54pm
Yes, already tried to turn the belt around.
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
21st Mar, 2018 at 03:16:23pm
good thought,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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Forum Mod 10979 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
23rd Mar, 2018 at 03:23:26pm
I just noticed that the pulleys you are using are almost identical to mine.
Edited by TurboDave16V on 23rd Mar, 2018. On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
23rd Mar, 2018 at 10:54:51pm
Other day when I shim the head, i see no diference and I put up to two stripes of gasket under one side at the time, even rotating backwards
Edited by R.Rodrigues on 23rd Mar, 2018. |
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