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Rammie2000

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finally got it together to continue the turbo build. now... i have slowly been buying parts that i need and dont need but wanted...

all that now leaves me with a choice for drops and final drive.

i can go with standard drops and a 3.44 or 3.11 final drive or straight cut drops 1.045/1 with the 3.11 diff.

what would be your advise and why?

greets.

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I guess what sort of use and rev range do you have?
I run standard A series drops with the mini spares remote SCCR gear set and a 3.76FD on a 165/70 10. It then the car runs to 8300rpm so sitting on the motorway at 4000rpm wouldn’t bother me.

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
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Rammie2000

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the engine isnt run yet. so rev range no idea. its running on 12 inch wheels standard ratio gearbox.

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finish date set for project 1... march 2018


Joe C

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i'd just go for the 1:1 incas e there is any difference in backlash with the 1.045 ratio drops, the .045 only drops the the speed by 3mph at 100mph anyway.

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Rammie2000

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my tought is that a 3.44 might be a bit short and the 3.11 bit long. as i calculated that with the 1.045 and the 3.11 diff would make 3.25. right in the midle of it. so small roads no problem and highway without rushing it.

or am i seeing this wrong?

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Joe C

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Carlos Fandango

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no thats a fair point, although is a 3.2 diff an option?,

what gear kit are you running? if its std helical i doubt youd find the 3.1 too long, admittidly 3.1 can be tall with a s/c set in 1st and 2nd , but 4th is nice for cruising at about 4k.



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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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John

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I'm in the Helical drops, clubman gearset, 3.2 FD and 10 inch wheels camp. I found this was a good all-rounder.

I could even be tempted by a 3.44 as I don't do many miles!

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Joe C

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Carlos Fandango

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i meant to mention, if you keep to 1:1 then if the drops get to much you can swap back to helicals without affecting the gearing.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Rammie2000

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my gearbox is standard helical. the differential is standard to. ( option for a standard 3.44 of standard 3.11) i had a 3.11 in a na 1275 and found it was long ( 12 inch wheels) did about 3800 rpm at 120 km/h
i tought calculating 3.11*1.045 would make 3.25 ( or same as it would aqtualy be a 3.25 or does that straight cut drop gear set affect the drive different then just that?

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Jack2eaton

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This all depends on what you are using the car for.
I Have standard drops SCCR gearset and 13”wheels and I thought the 3.44 in theory sounded great being able to use the entire gearbox to its potential. Using the entire rev range in all 4 gears on the twisties. Then I got it on the road which was fantastic and until I did a 300mile round trip to pick up some new bits. Sat on a motorway at 70mph at 4K+ revs for an hour and a half drove me insane. I couldn’t even hear my stereo.
I Immediately swapped it for a 2.9 which makes it drive much more like a proper car with much more feel for the added Torque and 100% better for 90% of the driving I actually use the car for.
Alternatively if I was going anywhere near a track (which I’m not) I would have a completely different opinion.
3.11 sounds like a good compromise though.


Rammie2000

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the car isnt really 100% legal in our laws so use will be track days and occasional runs.

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018

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