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i have a crank here all standard with 12G1505 on it whats it from? will it fit an A+ block and if i paint it yellow and stick it on ebay will it fetch loads of money

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Crankshaft - Standard Production Crank Identification

By keith calver

Begin date 07-Jul-2005 End date 08-Jul-2006

Yes, contrary to what many say/express, all cranks are forged. None are cast. They wouldn't last 2 minutes in an engine if they were cast - they'd be way too brittle.

Below is a list of crankshaft identification data by forging or stamped numbers - yes, contrary to what many say/express, all cranks are forged. None are cast. They wouldn't last 2 minutes in an engine if they were cast - they'd be way too brittle. The differences are in the material used, finish machining detail and any heat treatments applied. It is by no means complete and utterly correct/infallible since Austin/Morris, British Leyland, Leyland cars, Austin Rover, rover, et al were seriously prone to not adhering to specifications and applications lists. But it is better than nothing at all!

22A62 850cc - Early type with oil feed for primary gear, 1.375" dia. tail
22A63 850cc - Early type with oil feed for primary gear, 1.375" dia. tail
22A298850cc - Early type thin-nose crank, 1.375" dia. tail
12A670 850cc - Later type with 1.5" dia. tail
12A298 997cc - Original Cooper crank
12A375 997cc - Cooper crank with oil feed hole for primary gear
12A595 998cc - Early EN16T spec
12A1451 998cc - Later, pre-A+ EN16T spec
BHM1436 998cc - A+ spec, 1985 onwards (12A1451 forging)
12G82 1100cc - Standard across the board transverse A-series EN16T spec
AEG330 970cc - EN40B forged, non-cross drilled
AEG171 1071cc - EN40B forged, non-cross drilled
AEG315 1275cc - Cooper S, EN40B forging, Nitrided, 1.625" dia. big ends, non-cross drilled
AEG316 1275cc - Cooper S, EN40B forging, Nitrided, 1.625" dia. big ends, non-cross drilled
AEG479 1275cc - Cooper S, EN40B forging, Nitrided, 1.625" dia. big ends, cross drilled
AEG480 1275cc - Cooper S, EN40B forging, Nitrided, 1.625" dia. big ends, cross drilled
AEG623 1275cc - Cooper S, EN16T forging, Tuftrided, 1.625" dia. big ends
12G1287 1275cc - Non-S, EN16T with 1.625" dia. big ends
12G1288 1275cc - Non-S, EN16T with 1.625" dia. big ends
12G1505 1275cc - Non-S, EN16T with 1.75" dia. big ends
12G1683 1275cc - 12G1505 forging, non-S, EN16T with 1.75" dia. big ends, Tuftrided
CAM6232* 1275cc - Rolled-fillet radius on bearing journals, A+ with 1.75" dia. big ends


looks like its an A series dude....would sell for more £££ if you painted the flywheel taper red aswell *wink*

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CAM6232 1275cc - Rolled-fillet radius on bearing journals, A+ with 1.75" dia. big ends


Does this mean that the turbo crank is better due to the radius being done in the forging,rather than just ground in


could be why the different part number


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Keith Calver's minispares article said:
Below is a list of crankshaft identification data by forging or stamped numbers - yes, contrary to what many say/express, all cranks are forged. None are cast. They wouldn't last 2 minutes in an engine if they were cast - they'd be way too brittle. The differences are in the material used, finish machining detail and any heat treatments applied. It is by no means complete and utterly correct/infallible since Austin/Morris, British Leyland, Leyland cars, Austin Rover, rover, et al were seriously prone to not adhering to specifications and applications lists. But it is better than nothing at all!

22A62 850cc - Early type with oil feed for primary gear, 1.375" dia. tail
22A63 850cc - Early type with oil feed for primary gear, 1.375" dia. tail
22A298850cc - Early type thin-nose crank, 1.375" dia. tail
12A670 850cc - Later type with 1.5" dia. tail
12A298 997cc - Original Cooper crank
12A375 997cc - Cooper crank with oil feed hole for primary gear
12A595 998cc - Early EN16T spec
12A1451 998cc - Later, pre-A+ EN16T spec
BHM1436 998cc - A+ spec, 1985 onwards (12A1451 forging)
12G82 1100cc - Standard across the board transverse A-series EN16T spec
AEG330 970cc - EN40B forged, non-cross drilled
AEG171 1071cc - EN40B forged, non-cross drilled
AEG315 1275cc - Cooper S, EN40B forging, Nitrided, 1.625" dia. big ends, non-cross drilled
AEG316 1275cc - Cooper S, EN40B forging, Nitrided, 1.625" dia. big ends, non-cross drilled
AEG479 1275cc - Cooper S, EN40B forging, Nitrided, 1.625" dia. big ends, cross drilled
AEG480 1275cc - Cooper S, EN40B forging, Nitrided, 1.625" dia. big ends, cross drilled
AEG623 1275cc - Cooper S, EN16T forging, Tuftrided, 1.625" dia. big ends
12G1287 1275cc - Non-S, EN16T with 1.625" dia. big ends
12G1288 1275cc - Non-S, EN16T with 1.625" dia. big ends
12G1505 1275cc - Non-S, EN16T with 1.75" dia. big ends
12G1683 1275cc - 12G1505 forging, non-S, EN16T with 1.75" dia. big ends, Tuftrided
CAM6232* 1275cc - Rolled-fillet radius on bearing journals, A+ with 1.75" dia. big ends

*Note: This crankshaft was used in all 1275cc, A+, transverse engines including the MG Metro Turbo. There are various un-confirmed opinions on the subject of whether the material was any different, or whether it was heat treated differently. It would appear that early Turbos had just the standard spec, EN16T, non-heat treated type fitted. Later examples certainly appear to have been heat-treated, probably an up-to-date, emissions-friendly version of 'Tuftriding' (a recognised ICI registered process) - possibly a forerunner to Nitro-Carburising. These crankshafts have a distinctly charcoal-grey/black finish - mostly detectable on the webs, water pump/alternator pulley end and in the rolled fillet radii. The later being fairly 'deep' and very even.

Article Date: Oct 27, 2003


thats the full article, cant link to it cos minispares site is shite!

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When that was first published in minimag, I contacted KC and asked why he'd left the 6581 out of the list...
I recall he said somet on the lines of that he'd never actually handled one - or seen one - so thought better than to comment on it.

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Excellent info!

Mr Calver needs to get up to speed on that one.

iam sure you will enlighten him Dave.*laughing**laughing*

Edited by BENROSS on 25th Jan, 2006.






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12g1505 were fitted to GT engines, these are the best for stroking using an S-sized big ends IIRC. Worth a bit of money for that very reason if they are on std size journals.

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie


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They were fitted to anything 1275 A-series, NON S.

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so basically Wolfie,it's a door stop,
send it up to me and i'll see if i can salvage it .
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or send it to me, i'm closer so it'll be cheaper *tongue*

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