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MaltaMini

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Guys, if money was not so much of a problem, which rods would you fit to a high-boost turbo engine?

A+ stress-relieved and polished8 Votes 8 Votes - 0%
Cooper S stress relieved and polished0 Votes 0 Votes - 0%
Carillo7 Votes 7 Votes - 0%
Arrow10 Votes 10 Votes - 0%
MiniSpeed1 Votes 1 Votes - 0%

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jimmy

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so if money was not the problem i would use forged EN40B crank saenz light steel rods omega forged piston but if money is a problem i would use A+ stress-relieved rods & ARP rod bolts :cool:

Edited by jimmy on 26th Feb, 2006.

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fastcarl

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if money wass no object i'd have my cranks made by cosworth in the same material they used to use a few years ago untill the rules were changed, and have the overall mass minimal.

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jimmy

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the turbo crank was std but was Ni-tempered for the turbo use

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On 26/02/2006 19:44:38 jimmy said:

the turbo crank was std but was Ni-tempered for the turbo use


Are you sure ??? why the different casting number then*surprised*


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nothing beats arrows tollerances, if it was money not a problem they win pants down.

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Joe C

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yeah, I've been wondering that

The minispeed ones look pretty nice, although looks are no garrantee of quality of course.

Although the S rods are stronger, i'd go for A+ (or 1300GT if i could find a set) as I like the idea of having more crank material at the B end journel.

Although the Arrow ect rods are lovely I don't think i could spend that on a set of rods unless I had no option.

http://www.minispeed.co.uk/classic/index.c...oduct&id=rodul3

Edited by Joe C on 27th Feb, 2006.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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hm! i have asked this question befor i think ??

i have a set on innocenti rods the ones with the small beam in the middle

are thes stronger than the A+ ones??






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i forget the name of the people who make the minispeed rods, popular engine component manufacturer, possibly abroad. i'll try and get a name.

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie


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Is there any advantagein using cooper s rods? got a set available but im not sure if they are worth the hassle??


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No would rather keep them never no when they may get used!!


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Well i wouldn't bother with any fancy rods for your high boost engine. You need good rods and light weight pistons for a high reving engine NOT for an engine that revs upto maybe 6500 but with high boost. Its the Loads associated with the rpm that stretches rods , bolts , etc. The extra load on the power stroke puts the rod in compression anyway. My engine was built with no compremise on what money was spent and i have pretty standard rods (A+).

SAVE YOUR MONEY.

I'd be suprised if Cosworth made there own cranks. And the material changes were to outlaw Berylium allows and i dont think this was used in the cranks. Was certainly used in some piston rings (i've got a set). The stuff is radiactive and not healthy for the poor guys who have to machine it.


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On 14/03/2006 19:55:56 Mirage said:

Well i wouldn't bother with any fancy rods for your high boost engine. You need good rods and light weight pistons for a high reving engine NOT for an engine that revs upto maybe 6500 but with high boost. Its the Loads associated with the rpm that stretches rods , bolts , etc. The extra load on the power stroke puts the rod in compression anyway. My engine was built with no compremise on what money was spent and i have pretty standard rods (A+).

SAVE YOUR MONEY.

I'd be suprised if Cosworth made there own cranks. And the material changes were to outlaw Berylium allows and i dont think this was used in the cranks. Was certainly used in some piston rings (i've got a set). The stuff is radiactive and not healthy for the poor guys who have to machine it.


you thinking of berilium alloy ,used for brake calipers,
i'm talking about some seriously fancy steels previously used for F1 cranks untill the mat was banned on cost grounds.

BTW Peter i have a spanking set of 1275 Arrow rods for S big ends, and i'm not selling,lol.never no ,wont do it so stop harping on.
i suppose you could allways use terillium carbonic alloys.
just like Buzz Lightyear..

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It's true that they did use berilium alloyed with aluminium for brake calipers, but thats not what i'm thinking of. They also used it in steels. These were used a lot in the valve train and may also have been used for the cranks. I don't know of any materials that have been banned in F1 on cost grounds only health and safety.

Edited by Mirage on 17th Mar, 2006.


stuart gurr - vmaxscart

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i thought the rods minispeed sold were made by saenz?
thats what it says on the box


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I was told by Nick Swift that he has known the Minspeed Saenz
rods fail, might my just be a ploy to buy his ones! Swiftys one are well smart with the logo and not bad at £720. So the story goes Arrow use to make rods to Swiftys design, but they started selling Swifty designed rods to to the public, so Swifty now has a newly designed rod with his logo made by someone else with a supposed 100% fail free record.
But back to the initial question:
A+ stress relieved with ARP bolts 1st choice due to cost

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but who is going to see the logo?


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Gavin Wakely nice car on your post

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