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After reading another thread (about intercoolers strangle) that mentioned alternator loading, I was just wondering:

How many people have a switch to turn off the alternator when at the drag strip? or just pull the connection out?

I hope I haven't given away any secrets here.

Wil

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Well Ben , just between you and me*wink*

It make no difference to my car as I've tested it on the rolling road, so my advice is to not bother, but I'm sure others with not agree.

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I have to say I don't think it will make much difference. As we have measured our car only takes 4A when running that is about 48watts which is about 0.06bhp (I think so anyway) The gain is if you remove the alternator as it weighs a tonne...

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Are now that's an angle i wasn't even thinking off, good idea on your beasty! get it off!

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wil_h

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Our's got binned years ago, so did the heavy-weight battery.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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When talking to Andy from MLM (i think it was andy anyway, might have been mr dodd) talk moved onto putting a switch on the throttle pedal which cuts the small wire which goes to the alternator when full throttle is applied. The wire is usually connected to the back of the instrument pack, but in this case a switch would cut it when the pedal is flored. If this is done, it'll stop the alternator charging the system so it doesnt take any load up when u need it.

Its minimal anyway, but the alternator will still zap probably around a hp when charging the system. Its peanuts really. Add the fan and pump it maybe a couple more.

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On 23/06/2006 11:08:44 Miniwilliams said:

Well Ben , just between you and me*wink*

It make no difference to my car as I've tested it on the rolling road, so my advice is to not bother, but I'm sure others with not agree.


If i remember correctly mate you lost a couple of hp and ray said it may be due to a slightly weaker spark with no alternator charging the system!!

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And extra weight from the throttle switch!

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there is a company up this way (scotalnd) that dies a device to cut the alternator at full throttle, it also has the ability to detect if the battery is getting drained to much so it doesnt disconnect the alternator atall. so you never flatten your battery. works well on modern cars wiht lots of electical goodies, especialy at night. know atleast one person has tested it on teh rollers back to back, got 2-3hp.

its called "alterpower" by GMC.

modern ECU's (megasquirt included) have correciton algorithms for battery voltage W.R.T Dwell, so no trouble wiht sparks at lower voltage.

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The amount of bhp the alt zaps depends on how many amps it's pulling.
When your start your engine it will use approx 5bhp till the battery is charged back up-so as long as you run the engine for 5-10 miniutes before a run then it will only be putting out what you are using.
Might make a differance to engine inertia same as a lightend flywheel as it is another mass to spin up and it goes roughly 4-5 times faster rotation than the engine


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An alternator weighs 4KG iirc but then again it is hanging over the front wheels to aid traction.

Just stick some optimax in it and turn the boost up!!!!

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