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Leadfoot

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What is the 970cc copper block worth?

I can buy it for mabe 67£ But i dont know the condition of it.


Joe C

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well thats hard to say, although copper blocks are really rare they do wear rather rapidly, although the copper blocks do have a superior heat tranfer rate...*laughing**laughing*

Seriously, even pretty knackered ones can go for serious money, just due to the 970 stamp on them.

thing is what will you do with it? probably the best bet is to flog it on to some one who wants it for a proper 970 rebuild.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Why would an S block wear faster?
The 970 is a plate, not a stamp.

What does matter for its value, is what bore it is. If it has got a 73,5mm bore, it's not worth as much as if it's std.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 02/07/2006 14:41:11 Vegard said:

Why would an S block wear faster?
The 970 is a plate, not a stamp.
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Copper Cooper, it's a spelling joke

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the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

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I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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Cooper blocks with decent life left in them, IE std ,+20 or +40 and not cracked can fetch up to £300. The 970 block is only any use to some one building the 970s or a short stroke engine, this is because it is some what shorter in hight.

As said they are like rocking horse shit to get hold of, there were only ever 972 fitted to cars at the factory, excluding service items, compare that with the cooper 1275 s with almost 35,000 fitted at the factory.

Somebody some where will want one (like me *happy* , i'll buy it off you for £100, you make a profit and I get the block *tongue* ) Its no use without the 970s crank and the last one went for like £260 on ebay.

Its a big wallet engine, for not much bang.

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Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
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Staggy

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i noticed that vegard said the number is on a plate and not the block but ihave a spare block that has 970 stamped on it on the top hand side on the flat next to the rocker cover. I hope that makes sense. Am i in luck to have one of these blocks?

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On 02/07/2006 21:51:43 Mini Sprocket said:

Cooper blocks with decent life left in them, IE std ,+20 or +40 and not cracked can fetch up to £300. The 970 block is only any use to some one building the 970s or a short stroke engine, this is because it is some what shorter in hight.



The 970 and 1071 blocks are of the same height btw, so this would also be useable for someone building a 1071.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



Arnoud

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That's 67 quid? I've just found a 1275S engine for my 997 Cooper project otherwise I'd be very interested (still am, actually; I like old mini stuff a lot*wink*.

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If its std and in good condition you'd be looking well over £300 maybe £350 for the block and caps alone. If its on a big bore +60/120 then your looking at £200ish.

Thats going on several which i know have been sold in recent years.

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie


Joe C

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Yeah, poor joke i know,

also look to see if its thin or thick flange, the thick flange ones used to go for more, but tbh i don't think theres a lot in it these days.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



Vegard

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Thick flange 970 and 1071 blocks do not exist.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



Leadfoot

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here is the engin number i think 9F-SA-h 5477


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On 04/07/2006 15:46:44 Leadfoot said:

here is the engin number i think 9F-SA-h 5477


don't want to rain on your parade, but this number is for a 997 engine, not a 970. Did you measure the bores?

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On 04/07/2006 10:24:17 Vegard said:

Thick flange 970 and 1071 blocks do not exist.


According to my information they do, but very very very very few were made. I think they were fitted to factory racers.

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie


Leadfoot

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i think its a 997 then. is that worth anyting?


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Sure it's worth something but only to someone restoring a 997 (like me*wink*. From a performance point of view the 997 is rather hopeless with the long stroke and small bore.

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On 04/07/2006 18:01:47 andeh said:

On 04/07/2006 10:24:17 Vegard said:

Thick flange 970 and 1071 blocks do not exist.


According to my information they do, but very very very very few were made. I think they were fitted to factory racers.


Well, they're just milled down 1275 blocks after 64, but no 970 or 1071 cars did leave factory with thick flange blocks. The thich flange block appeared in 66 a year after production of the 970 seased.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



Leadfoot

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well, then ill save my money and buy something else to the car.

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