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kitch

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Hi Guys, I was about to order a MJLJ Complete MAP Sensor version Kit from the MJLJ site when I thought about import tax. Have any of you guys bought this kit and di you have to pay any extra charges??

I have all my EDIS components and I think I am going to order the SC trigger wheel and sensor mount, is there any thing else I need other than the serial to usb adapter and the software???

I am using a HIF44 carb on a N/A engine (sorry *tongue*), where is the map sensor plumbed in to?

Cheers

Mark


Joe C

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odds on you'll get charged import duty, there was a thread on it a couple of months ago,

but basicaly it'll be 17.5%, well thats what i was charged anyway,

you need to plumb the MAP to the inlet manifold,

i'm not totaly familiar with the MJLJ but it sounds like you have everythin to me,

also I have heard the SC sensor bits are very good.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



stevieturbo

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Import duty is usually around 4%, add to that 17.5% VAT, then some couriers like to charge handling fees too, which can range between £13-20 or so.

Not too bad on an expensive item, but if they nab you on a relatively cheap item....its no longer cheap.
Parcel Force ( via USPS in the US ) are nasty for that one

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will


Nic

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i think i got charged something like £13


dev

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Import duty on car parts is 3%
Vat is 17.5% of value of goods, plus duty, plus value for vat purposes ( min 100 or 0.40 pence per kilo).

Handling dependant on who does it can range from 20 to 60 quid.

If you need help pm me.

TurboDave said

"Fab's right of course.

Maybe you should take your styling ideas off the French instead! "


AlexF2003

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It varies massivly!!

no idea how they work it out as its random as hell!

somewtimes theres no charge at all :S

Alex

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dev

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Alex its calculated as i said above.

TurboDave said

"Fab's right of course.

Maybe you should take your styling ideas off the French instead! "


kitch

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Thanks for your replies guys, I think i'm gonna have to consider this a bit more as i'm not sure how long this is going to take to set up. Assembling the kit is not a problem but setting it up on the engine with the map etc could take a while and i think all in it is going to cost more than a 123 dizzy whic prob wouldn't take that long to set up.

I've been uming and ahing bout this for ages and need to jus make up my mind. The two main factors are the balancing of the crank and flywheel which I have already had done and fitting a trigger wheel might cock this up to some extent but on the other hand the dizzy drive shaft is supposed to be an area which wears alot and produces scatter.

I dunno.........




RogerM

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Kitch, to my mind if your concerned enough about the engine balance to state it here then an generic dizzy, 123 included, will never give you the fine control for your engine that you desire.

Go megaJolt.

Every day is a school day ...........

How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:

why do you you think I got a girlfriend with small hands?


kitch

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I would like to go that way but what would you recommend for the trigger wheel and its attachment?

I was initially contemplating machining the damper (1275 standard jobby) with the teeth but was worried that this would ruin the balance of the rotating assembley.

The specialist components kit looks really good but im not sure whether this would also ruin the balance of the crank (probably to a lesser extent as it looks like a precision machined item) and is £120 all in which is going to up the overall cost.

I really appreciate the comments guys


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On 8th of Feb, 2007 at 09:35pm dev said:
Alex its calculated as i said above.



In theory....quite often it doesnt go like that though.

Often random charges seem to pop up....

I was battled for about 7 months with UPS over duty charges, and their inability to perform simple calculations. I was very fortunate though, that the delivery driver left my parts, without paying the duty COD.
If he hadnt, I'd have either to have paid the incorrect charge ( roughly double what it should have been ) and fight later or let them keep my parts until the matter was resolved...

And who wants to wait for several months to get their new bits ??

Must hoke out that paperwprk. The last sheet of calculations they did, really was a joke. It was after this, they finally waived all charges and I never heard anything more about it.
They must have a bunch of monkeys working for them or something.

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will


RogerM

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Personally I'd have machined the pulley up front so if I wanted to change it'd all ready be there.

You could get the pulley balanced back to it's current position after machining.

Obviously it's not the best to run it without balancing but you won't be the first.

Every day is a school day ...........

How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:

why do you you think I got a girlfriend with small hands?


kitch

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I Know big time schoolboy error........this is the first engine i have built and its been a steep learning curve, if I do it again it will be sooo much easier and I will consider all the aspects.

I don't really understand how balancing works, would I need the whole shooting match rebalanced or just the pulley after.

I did some research and I think that if i was to get the pulley on its own balanced then the assembley would be statically balanced but not perfectly dynamically balanced.


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For the first time ever I got a customs charge on an order coming the other way, into the States, it was a 350 quid order and they charged $19... and $5 of that was a brokerage charge.

I feel for you fellas.. If they were wacking me 17.5% plus I'd have given up ages ago!

Terry

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AlexF2003

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you can buy machined std pulleys that have been balanced!

they come from the same place you can buy a kit of parts in this country!

hehehe

Alex

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On 8th of Feb, 2007 at 11:55pm kitch said:
I would like to go that way but what would you recommend for the trigger wheel and its attachment?

I was initially contemplating machining the damper (1275 standard jobby) with the teeth but was worried that this would ruin the balance of the rotating assembley.

The specialist components kit looks really good but im not sure whether this would also ruin the balance of the crank (probably to a lesser extent as it looks like a precision machined item) and is £120 all in which is going to up the overall cost.

I really appreciate the comments guys

AlexF


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I have just got a kit and the import duty was £11.74.


dev

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On 9th of Feb, 2007 at 01:08am stevieturbo said:



On 8th of Feb, 2007 at 09:35pm dev said:
Alex its calculated as i said above.



In theory....quite often it doesnt go like that though.

Often random charges seem to pop up....

I was battled for about 7 months with UPS over duty charges, and their inability to perform simple calculations. I was very fortunate though, that the delivery driver left my parts, without paying the duty COD.
If he hadnt, I'd have either to have paid the incorrect charge ( roughly double what it should have been ) and fight later or let them keep my parts until the matter was resolved...

And who wants to wait for several months to get their new bits ??

Must hoke out that paperwprk. The last sheet of calculations they did, really was a joke. It was after this, they finally waived all charges and I never heard anything more about it.
They must have a bunch of monkeys working for them or something.


Nah Stevie that is how its calculated mate. Seriously i import on a daily basis and do the entries and declarations to customs myself.
I also do the reclaims when customers dont provide correct documentation.

Companies like UPS / Fed Ex / DHL (on the parcel side for DHL) are shocking. i have a contract with a major government labratory and the amount of times this year alone they have delivered goods uncleared and therefore illegally, is unbelievable.

I personally would never use DHL/Fed Ex/UPs because i know they dont know what they are doing.

I do sympathise with all those who have had problems with importing goods and again if any of you need help either getting stuff through customs or with arranging a shipment of goods, i'm always here. gimme a shout.

Dev

TurboDave said

"Fab's right of course.

Maybe you should take your styling ideas off the French instead! "


kitch

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I've been looking into sourcing the part for the unit myself and have been looking for the MAP sensor. The parts list specifies

MPX4250 2.5 Bar Pressure Sensor

and on the MJLJ forum they suggest Farnell as a possible supplier. On their webpage there are a load of numbers with different endings. The page is

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search2/browse.j...equestid=181871

are any of these the correct component and has anyone used farnell or someone else to order their parts

cheers

EDIT: I found a topic on the megajolt forum from which I think it may be the MPX4250AP, is that the one ????

Edited by kitch on 9th Feb, 2007.


stevieturbo

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On 9th of Feb, 2007 at 12:18pm dev said:



On 9th of Feb, 2007 at 01:08am stevieturbo said:



On 8th of Feb, 2007 at 09:35pm dev said:
Alex its calculated as i said above.



In theory....quite often it doesnt go like that though.

Often random charges seem to pop up....

I was battled for about 7 months with UPS over duty charges, and their inability to perform simple calculations. I was very fortunate though, that the delivery driver left my parts, without paying the duty COD.
If he hadnt, I'd have either to have paid the incorrect charge ( roughly double what it should have been ) and fight later or let them keep my parts until the matter was resolved...

And who wants to wait for several months to get their new bits ??

Must hoke out that paperwprk. The last sheet of calculations they did, really was a joke. It was after this, they finally waived all charges and I never heard anything more about it.
They must have a bunch of monkeys working for them or something.


Nah Stevie that is how its calculated mate. Seriously i import on a daily basis and do the entries and declarations to customs myself.
I also do the reclaims when customers dont provide correct documentation.

Companies like UPS / Fed Ex / DHL (on the parcel side for DHL) are shocking. i have a contract with a major government labratory and the amount of times this year alone they have delivered goods uncleared and therefore illegally, is unbelievable.

I personally would never use DHL/Fed Ex/UPs because i know they dont know what they are doing.

I do sympathise with all those who have had problems with importing goods and again if any of you need help either getting stuff through customs or with arranging a shipment of goods, i'm always here. gimme a shout.

Dev


So who do you ship with ??

To be honest, I have never had an issue with FedEx. Their service has been top notch, every time.

UPS on the other hand, are usually crap. DHL have been good for me too, although havent received that much stuff from them.

USPS is another. Service ok, until Parcel Force get their hands on it.

9.85 @ 145mph
202mph standing mile
speed didn't kill me, but taxation probably will


t3gav

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Who balanced the crank kitch, cant you just send it back with the pulley? Personally i'd just buy the mj stuff from someone in the uk like alex, much easier and good aftersales :)


AlexF2003

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On 9th of Feb, 2007 at 01:51pm kitch said:
I've been looking into sourcing the part for the unit myself and have been looking for the MAP sensor. The parts list specifies

MPX4250 2.5 Bar Pressure Sensor

and on the MJLJ forum they suggest Farnell as a possible supplier. On their webpage there are a load of numbers with different endings. The page is

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search2/browse.j...equestid=181871

are any of these the correct component and has anyone used farnell or someone else to order their parts

cheers

EDIT: I found a topic on the megajolt forum from which I think it may be the MPX4250AP, is that the one ????


I have 12 MAP sensors in stock - pm me if your intested *happy*

Alex

AlexF


Rawden

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Import Duty.

If you import a computor, or computor parts they free of Import Duty.

Check the definition of computor before filling in the form and save 3 or 4 percent.


dev

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Depends on the end use for the computer parts. If for example they are for automotive vehicles they are classed as vehicle components.
If its PCB's it can be duty free dependant on the nation that produced them. USA tho has a trade embargo so not duty free.

Stevie, i use DHL for docs and anything waying less than 45kgs for economic reasons after that i ship it using a freight forwarder. I work for Davies Turner Air Cargo.

TurboDave said

"Fab's right of course.

Maybe you should take your styling ideas off the French instead! "


robert

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i got my mjlt direct from brent in seattle,the customs charge and post office charge was 19 quid i think .
been in vancouver a lot in the last few years and buy stuff and bring it back the ups service was atrocious , often they would bang on a 60 dollar brokerage fee with no warning ...fed ex were great and i had no complaints ,trouble is ,a lot of the american parts places only want to send stuff ups ,and then your stuffed , i actually tried to get summit to let me arrange pickup by fed ex and they would'nt have it at all at that time .

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