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Do you use the A+ 998 ones or are they the same?

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if you use a 1098 crank and 998 rods, wouldnt you have to pocket the head?


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Im assuming whoever has done this before has used short height pistons or the 1098 rods are shorter. I dont know

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Use standard 1098 or 998 rods, they are both the same. A+ probably better.

You just need short height 1098 pistons.

Minisport.aus do hypatecs for 1098.

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Cheers. Do they do oversize ones?

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They do +0.040" and +0.060".

http://www.minisport.com.au/category5_1.htm

They are standard type slotted pistons rather than high performance. Veg is using them in his 1100.

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Cheers Paul

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I will also be using those +60 hypatecs onmy engine. It will never be finished though so I have nothing useful to contribute on their performance

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse *happy*


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Gary's description is best


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A ones are better than A+ as they are fully floating small ends. However, the A+ rod bolts are better.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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That's a good point. You will need the early A+ rods with the bushes for the fully floating pins.

You can still use the press fit, but piston removal would be tricky at rebuild time.

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Thread resurrection.

I stripped my 1098 motor today to look at what I need to do.

Vegard did you stress relieve your 1098 A rods? pics?

Are ARP bolts available?

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You can get ARP bolts from Minispares, but out of stock at the moment.

[url]http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?ty=pb&pid=33886&title=CON ROD BOLT/NUT KIT 998/...[/url]

Maybe not necessary for road use.

I don't think that you will need to do anything with the rods either unless you are planning on high revs.

EDIT - Link doesn't work for some reason. The ARP part no. is 200-6207 on the set in my hand.

Edited by Paul S on 12th Oct, 2009.

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On 12th Oct, 2009 Paul S said:


I don't think that you will need to do anything with the rods either unless you are planning on high revs.


I want to do it for the hell of it really

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As a point of note I have been told if you get the +80's from aus for the 998's they have holes not slots.

Edited by gr4h4m on 12th Oct, 2009.

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Well, you can always go the whole hog and get MED to lighten, polish and then shot peen them:

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It dont look like theyve taken much off does it

I seriously doubt it!


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They have actually machined each side of the big end which does not show up well in that picture.

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I can see the flats around the bearing holes.

Did they do your crank too Paul? pics?

I seriously doubt it!


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They did both my 1275 and 850 cranks.

850 Crank:


I don't think I've got a picture of the 1275 crank.

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On 12th Oct, 2009 gr4h4m said:
As a point of note I have been told if you get the +80's from aus for the 998's they have holes not slots.


Is it the same with 1098 pistons?

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Gary's description is best


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Arent they the same pistons? I thought it was the crank and rods that were different

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Rods are the same, pistons have the shorter compression height.

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From calculations it is 3mm shorter in compression height.

Anybody with +120 or +80 998 pistons can measure the thickness of their crown ?

(I just picked up a 1098 crank for 30 euros and am contemplating building the largest turboed SBU possible)

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You cannot use 998 pistons in an 1098. End of discussion.

Edited by Vegard on 18th Dec, 2009.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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What about imp pistons they work with 1098 cranks

On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:

I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers.

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