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Ok i sort of need one of these. sugestions and prices would be nice. ebay have the aem but i'm not varified or something

Do you just want a gauge or the sensor and controller as well?

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

i assumed the gauge would come with control box but would also need sensor

i bought the AEM one with sensor, boss, etc for £200 off ebay. not as many functions as the innovate like data logging etc but i'm never gonna use that and it's a lot cheaper than the innovate.

I got mine from these people.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

being a bit tight, im planning to make one of these for my college project next year

it seems like a good idea now, but could prove expensive when my engine goes pop from running lean

I've got an AEM too. works a treat and easy to fit. Plus has all the outputs etc should you want them.

+1 AEM here too, great bit of kit.

I was looking at the AEM one due to the price but have only ever used Innovate stuff in the past.
Anybody actually used both that could explain the difference or has an AEM manual I could look through? AEM site is a bit light on info......

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Hi,



No idea if they're cheap / good / crap / expensive?
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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Edited by Rob H on 27th May, 2007.

I've got the AEM, keans got the Innovate XD-16 + LC-1. As far an AFR display in the dash goes then they're both the same. the innovate does have a slightly larger range, although the AEM does 10:1-17.9:1 which is more than enough imo.

i think the only extra's the innovate has over the aem is the data logging stuff when you hook it up to a PC. the aem is just a stand alone gauge but has a 5v output for ECU's aswell i think.

I just wanted it as an AFR gauge so went for the cheapest option tbh.

Gavin, i was looking at those vems ones on ebay before i got my aem but they didn't look as pretty, lol.

yeah you can link into your ecu easy enough. then my ecu does data logging

On 28th of May, 2007 at 11:33am iain said:
yeah you can link into your ecu easy enough. then my ecu does data logging

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

Yeah, the wire for the ecu comes out of the back of the gauge. i've got a feeling its got more than just one output too.

Its very very easy to fit, you just plug it all together and then put power and an earth on there. job done.

i'll dog out my instruction book sometime today.

Cheers guys .... I feel a dent coming to the wallet.

Every day is a school day ...........

How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

My AEM gauge also has an RS232 out put which can be access via HyperTerminal & the like, I supposed that could be used for data logging.

that was it! i remember now as i use hyperterminal for work.

thought it had 2 outputs!!

should be fine datalogging with that.

Ok guys, cheers ... another dent in the wallet. Plan to fit wide band for tuning Candice's engine and then swap it to a narrow once done.

The wideband will ultimately go into my own car but is likely to be 'mobile' throught the fleet as I work through them.

I like the look of the AEM ...... I just wanted to be sure it'd do what I want.

Thanks again.

Every day is a school day ...........

How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

i have just ordered the innovate wideband guage from innovate through a group buy on the renault club. Read some good reveiws hopefully be alrite! i know several people using the lm1 with good results!
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/db.php

http://www.aempower.com/images/products/10-4101.pdf

instruction manual for AEM, shows you the datalogging etc.

Star Mag ... I have an Innovate controller built into the kit car for closed loop running but never bought the gauge.

I am much less worried about monitoring the AFR on that car as firstly it's injected and secondly if you have time to look at the dash your not driving it properly (or at all in my case as it's currently in bits!!!)

Iain ... thank you, that is what I was looking for ... off to read it right now

Every day is a school day ...........

How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

I think that to verify the siamesed port code on my NA 1275, I'm going to need something a bit sharper.

Looks like my existing Innovate LC-1, an LM-1 with the Aux box will let me monitor and log the two widebands, rpm and vacuum.

I cant see any other way to do it properly, but at £460 it's a bit steep.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."