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332 Posts Member #: 483 Senior Member Merthyr Tydfil |
5th Sep, 2007 at 04:31:21pm
Hi all I was going to take my gearbox somewhere to have it upgraded to straight cut gears.
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122 Posts Member #: 1812 Advanced Member Live in birmingham and work sheffield |
5th Sep, 2007 at 06:09:11pm
dont forget to buy some staight cut drop gears aswel.
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5th Sep, 2007 at 07:03:14pm
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![]() 2742 Posts Member #: 637 Post Whore Hertfordshire |
5th Sep, 2007 at 07:20:42pm
icklemini is somone that iv only heard good things about gearbox rebuilds, in fact does anyone know his email addy?
My build thread..
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2514 Posts Member #: 1217 I like nice quiet girly Minis Cheltenham, Gloucestershire |
5th Sep, 2007 at 10:36:49pm
Are you sure you need straight cuts at that boost? I'd personally spend the money on a properly built helical and the change on making the car handle a little better.
Every day is a school day ...........
On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:
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332 Posts Member #: 483 Senior Member Merthyr Tydfil |
6th Sep, 2007 at 12:50:58pm
to be honest I dont realy know what gears are best for me I was just told buy the R+R Enginner that if I wanted to run 10psi as a daily driver I would need to upgrade the gearbox.
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332 Posts Member #: 483 Senior Member Merthyr Tydfil |
6th Sep, 2007 at 12:56:18pm
I got £700 to spend |
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
6th Sep, 2007 at 01:52:24pm
I'd go straight cut, it will be better in the long term if you wish to up the boost and increase the power etc in the future. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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1303 Posts Member #: 30 Post Whore Epsom, Surrey |
6th Sep, 2007 at 02:11:36pm
i have straight cut box and drops. i've done long distances and dont mind the noise BUT they do wear out quick so in my opinion not a great idea for a daily drive. mine showed signs of wear after 5,000miles and its a JKD gear set |
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![]() 6549 Posts Member #: 1149 #1 Basshunter Fan Force Racing ICT Dept Manager Miglia Turbo Am frum Yokshyer tha noes! |
6th Sep, 2007 at 03:56:34pm
Id Say a rebuilt helical with a 4pin diff and SC Drops.
1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.
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2514 Posts Member #: 1217 I like nice quiet girly Minis Cheltenham, Gloucestershire |
6th Sep, 2007 at 06:13:34pm
If it is a daily driver I'd go for a fully (ie. properly by hogster or somebody similar) rebuilt gearbox using an MPi gearset or an S gearset (do a search for ratios and TurboDave and you'll find a good ratio chart).
Every day is a school day ...........
On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:
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332 Posts Member #: 483 Senior Member Merthyr Tydfil |
6th Sep, 2007 at 06:30:01pm
Brilliant so Hoster can rebuild me a box I will send him a PM.
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6th Sep, 2007 at 06:59:09pm
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2514 Posts Member #: 1217 I like nice quiet girly Minis Cheltenham, Gloucestershire |
6th Sep, 2007 at 07:38:25pm
On 6th of Sep, 2007 at 06:30pm MiniTurboBadBoy said:
Brilliant so Hoster can rebuild me a box I will send him a PM. Will £700 be sufficent to buy the drops bearing and the rebuild? I already have a x pin diff I fitted it when I was putting the engine in. I only want to run about 120 bhp but I have reconed the head and fitted an uprated alloy billet actuator and a calibra turbo charge cooler at the mo If your only looking for 120 BHP then stick with helical drops. I've been putting 122 BHP (NA) through mine for a while now, previously they were in a 160 HP turbo build and had done a fair amount of time in a 100 ish BHP NA. Seem to remember they came out of a 100K + MG Metro .... Probably done about 150K miles by now. Just make sure the thrust surfaces are in good order ...... If I'm right AlexB ran about 140 BHP though his helical set, NeilJ1968 is running 138 BHP through his and I am planning Candice's build around helical box / drops and about 125ft/lb torque / 140 BHP. Spend the money that you save on an MJ set up to improve the drivability and some bits for the suspension. Make a great driving road car! Edited by RogerM on 6th Sep, 2007. Every day is a school day ...........
On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:
why do you you think I got a girlfriend with small hands? |
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![]() 6753 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
6th Sep, 2007 at 09:15:57pm
having just installed a mini its straight cut gear set in mine , i can definately say that its no louder in 4th than it was before ,1st 2nd and 3rd sound like a big supercharger , which i quite like ,and 4th is silent , so for cruising along it is no prob . Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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![]() 862 Posts Member #: 1660 Formally Mini_Uk London |
6th Sep, 2007 at 10:06:18pm
On 6th of Sep, 2007 at 02:11pm Turbo Shed said:
i have straight cut box and drops. i've done long distances and dont mind the noise BUT they do wear out quick so in my opinion not a great idea for a daily drive. mine showed signs of wear after 5,000miles and its a JKD gear set What, the sc gears showing signs of wear after 5.000 miles ? You must be hammering them im just building a sc & dc box.
Hope mine dont show signs of wear after 5.000 mile.. thats the only reason i went for them, coz there meant to last longer then standard.? Anyway. i won a sc box of that company, at £260 ish. but i wasn't happy with it at all. so sent it back, and asked to send me the new gears instead, and ill build it my self..they come and there top gears now :) there this type. http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=36035 And you just use your old first and reverse gears. Its says it comes with a 3.7 crownwheel and pinion with a standard diff.. but mine come with a 3.4 crownwheel and pinion with a standard diff for free... so that will be going on ebay.
As for drop gears. i got these.. PRIMARY GEAR http://www.minispares.com/SearchResults.as...Simple&ty=&rt=1 INPUT GEAR http://www.minispares.com/SearchResults.as...mple&ty=fi&rt=1 IDLER GEAR http://www.minispares.com/SearchResults.as...mple&ty=fi&rt=1 got this idler gear coz im gready. But you could get this idler gear. http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=36785 alot cheaper. but needs the bearing, as the one i got dont.. Shit Happen's |
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2514 Posts Member #: 1217 I like nice quiet girly Minis Cheltenham, Gloucestershire |
6th Sep, 2007 at 11:04:15pm
Really Rob ..... interesting .... mine were Min-Its supplied too (where else???) and they were LOUD!!!! Every day is a school day ...........
On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:
why do you you think I got a girlfriend with small hands? |
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1641 Posts Member #: 178 Post Whore stowmaket suffolk |
7th Sep, 2007 at 07:04:24am
sc gears will show signs of ware but doesnt mean the are worn out though, my drops have looked the same for years with slight piting on the teeth but havnt got worse, they must be 10-11 years old now, but gear set is 7 years old and doen fair few miles but the same again pitting marks along the teeth but has been the same for years.
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![]() 6753 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
7th Sep, 2007 at 08:05:54am
On 6th of Sep, 2007 at 11:04pm RogerM said:
Really Rob ..... interesting .... mine were Min-Its supplied too (where else???) and they were LOUD!!!! dont forget rog ,,,i still have helical drops ,like stevie . Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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![]() 9327 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
7th Sep, 2007 at 09:03:26am
On 7th of Sep, 2007 at 07:04am turbo hogster said:
one lesson i learnt from mat woods is when you have so much you always want more and he is right. Hoggy makes a good point there The trouble with these engines is that once you start you want more and more and more. So i now find if you can afford it to put the best in to cover all eventualities-its cheaper in the long run the s/c gears are not that loud if you arent giving it beans, but it they are quite pleasurable to hear them whine From rogers previous posts, i conclude that he must have rather sensitive ears |
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332 Posts Member #: 483 Senior Member Merthyr Tydfil |
7th Sep, 2007 at 11:27:10am
I think s/c would be the ones I need because Im running 8psi now and I want to run 10psi so Im properly going to want to increase the boost further in the future.
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![]() 1566 Posts Member #: 36 Post Whore Basingstoke |
7th Sep, 2007 at 11:32:56am
are you running an intercooler yet?
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332 Posts Member #: 483 Senior Member Merthyr Tydfil |
7th Sep, 2007 at 11:43:35am
Im running a charge cooler from a calibra turbo. Im not sure what type of clutch setup it is. Its just standard 1989 metro turbo. |
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2514 Posts Member #: 1217 I like nice quiet girly Minis Cheltenham, Gloucestershire |
7th Sep, 2007 at 12:51:57pm
With that clutch set up I'd think you'd struggle to transmit more than about 130ft/lb of torque ...... you could do the mod robert has done if you need to carry a bit more than that.
Every day is a school day ...........
On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:
why do you you think I got a girlfriend with small hands? |
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332 Posts Member #: 483 Senior Member Merthyr Tydfil |
7th Sep, 2007 at 01:40:00pm
So if I am going for the s/c gears I will have to upgrade to pre verto setup aswell. I will look into getting that done aswell just take my engine to hogster. I have pm him. Thanks for your advise guys. |
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