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welshdan

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what is an ideal final drive ratio to use on a fast road turbo engine? will be running 110-120 bhp hopefully at 7 psi of boost. use the car for road, including a fair few motorway trips.

cam is sw5

gearbox has 1:1 sc drops,and min its sccr gearset.

what diffs are ideal, and what engine/gearboxes can these be found in?

currently have standard non mg metro 1275 ratio. can the gearbox drive gear be used from this with another diff gear, or must matched sets be used?many thanks


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What wheels are you using? although it only makes a small difference. I personally am a fan of the 3.1, these can be found in 998s A+ boxes from minis.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


welshdan

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how about 998 a+ metros? will be running 13s


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The A+ metro boxes had a lower final drive (can't remember what, it was in a thread the other day).

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


welshdan

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so a lower final drive is better for a turbo engine? or taller?


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http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=220993

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welshdan

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cheers. so im after an a+ mini 1000 diff??


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how many teeth does each gear have? will this diff enable me to do 100mph plus?thanks


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@ 6500rpm and a 3.1 diff with 13" wheels:

124.07mph

This sites pretty good for a general idea of road speed depending on the kit you have:

http://www.kabamus.com/garage/gears.html

Im not sure about the mini-its gearkits but heres the ratio's for minispares clubman gearkit which ive opted for:

1st - 2.58 (31 teeth)
2nd- 1.71 (26 teeth)
3rd- 1.25 (23 teeth)
4th - 1

Laygear has 25,23,19 and 15 teeth respectively.

Have a play on that calculating site with the figures to give you a general idea.


welshdan

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thanks.i already have the minits gearset, i have built the gearbox back up with this. i meant how many teeth does the 3.1 diff have? thanks


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i use a 2.95 on 13s,, and have clocked 142.1 MPH *surprised*

A 3.1 is a good choice, about right *smiley*






welshdan

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cheers. il have to have a look around for one. a pain as iv rebuilt the gearbox, and diff with 4 pin etc in it. have a nearly new 998a+ init in the garage, would be a shame to strip just for the diff. do all 998a+ mini units use the same diff? ta


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Unless theyve been changed since standard yeah!


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On 22nd May, 2008 richminiturbo. said:
Unless theyve been changed since standard yeah!


Actually the A+ 998 came with two diffs, 3.44 and 3.1, 3.1s are more common in my experience, but some have lots with 3.44s.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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I'm sure some 998 A+ also came with 2.95:1 diffs in.


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welshdan

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is there a chart anywhere with the number of teeth for each dif ratio gear? if i get one i want to make sure im getting what i want. thanks for your help


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On 22nd May, 2008 Tom Fenton said:
I'm sure some 998 A+ also came with 2.95:1 diffs in.


Yep, the City E had a 2.95:1 diff, apparently the E stood for economy hence the final drive ratio.

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On 22nd May, 2008 Rob H said:
On 22nd May, 2008 Tom Fenton said:
I'm sure some 998 A+ also came with 2.95:1 diffs in.


Yep, the City E had a 2.95:1 diff, apparently the E stood for economy hence the final drive ratio.


All my City Es had 3.1s

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


Rob H

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I stand corrected.

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There is an economy model with a 2.95 though, not sure what it is. Isn't there a european model with a 2.7 diff?

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On 22nd May, 2008 Rob H said:
I stand corrected.


I think there is much confusion on the subject, knowing british leyland/Austin they just stuck in the diff that was closest to hand at the time.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


welshdan

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so what years aprox would have the 3.1 diff in? i dont want to be lumping an engine and gearbox around, strip it to find its not what im after! thanks


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Certinally all the 998s I had from 86 to 90 had 3.1s, with the exception of a racing green that has a 3.44

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


welshdan

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iv been offered an '82 998 unit for free, if still avalable. does this have a 3.1?

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