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301 Posts Member #: 2480 Senior Member Swindon |
28th May, 2008 at 01:38:10pm
ive currently got a set of 12s fitted and have ordered some 10s. they are now at the body shop and they are telling me that as they are clad in 165 70s the are the same size as my 165 55 12s i already have! i wanted to get the car as low as poss and have been told the 10s are also better far traction and handling. should i keep them or send them back? ive also got a set of cooper s calipers to fit with them! feature=mhum |
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Site Admin  15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
28th May, 2008 at 01:39:23pm
Have a search and read up, this debate has been covered many times. In essence it is each to their own.
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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
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 6549 Posts Member #: 1149 #1 Basshunter Fan Force Racing ICT Dept Manager Miglia Turbo Am frum Yokshyer tha noes! |
28th May, 2008 at 02:05:04pm
10s Rule thats what! 1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.
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 1050 Posts Member #: 764 Post Whore Staffordshire |
28th May, 2008 at 02:19:03pm
from what i read... assuming the geometry is altered to suit the wheel size used.
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 368 Posts Member #: 806 Senior Member Cirencester, Gloucestershire |
28th May, 2008 at 03:42:57pm
basically what anton said. 10's seem more forgiving
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 8215 Posts Member #: 90 Post Whore Somewhere around Swindon |
28th May, 2008 at 03:49:47pm
12's are for people with questionable sexuality, has sod all to do with handling
Edited by wolfie on 28th May, 2008. Crystal Sound Audio said:
Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead ! "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."-Douglas Adams |
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301 Posts Member #: 2480 Senior Member Swindon |
28th May, 2008 at 04:14:38pm
lol so im ok to go with the 10s? ive always fancied them as i think they go better with the car. bit pissed off as i thought i could have got the car lower than on 12s and got better straight line grip! feature=mhum |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
28th May, 2008 at 07:38:57pm
On 28th May, 2008 Anton said:
10's offer less grip but better handling. 13" offer more grip but worse handling. 12" are somewhere in-between. I find all that a little contradictive 
If you have good grip you have good handling, if you have poor grip you have poor handling Having good grip and poor handling is the same as having poor grip and good handling, No? You are right however about setting up the supension for the wheel in use, but all things equal, the 13s handle better than the 10s on track. If you are talking about handling on the great British roads, then the 10s may well be better off as there is more cusion in the tyre. Its a very subjective subject  It all depends what you want and how you use your car.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
28th May, 2008 at 07:52:55pm
On 28th May, 2008 Sprocket said:
If you have good grip you have good handling, if you have poor grip you have poor handling Not really, grip and handling at two totally different things. For example I had a Fiat X1-9 that had totally rubbish tyres on, the grip was terrible, but it handled beautifully, perfectly balanced. Changed the tyres and the grip was increased massively, but the balance was gone, it handled worse and was harder to drive and less fun. Same with the TT at one point, you can't get more grip than we had with 7" R25A compound tyres, but it was all over the shop, understeer one minute, overstere the next, no balance whatsoever. I personally think 10s look a bit gay and you compromise the ultimate braking, but if you want the period look there is no other choice. 12s are a great compromise as tyres are cheap and they fit over popper brakes. 13s if done correctly can work very well, but it's a different experience to driving with 10 or 12 and some people just don't get on with it. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
28th May, 2008 at 07:54:33pm
On 28th May, 2008 Sprocket said:
On 28th May, 2008 Anton said:
10's offer less grip but better handling. 13" offer more grip but worse handling. 12" are somewhere in-between. I find all that a little contradictive
If you have good grip you have good handling, if you have poor grip you have poor handling Having good grip and poor handling is the same as having poor grip and good handling, No? Wrong. Handlig and grip is two different things. A mini hasn't got good handling at all, just loadsa grip. Do you think a F1 car handles well? No. It handles like shite if you go outside it's grip levels. Anyone seen a F1 driver save a drift? Nope! Let me say one word, that sums it up: 911 Edited by Vegard on 28th May, 2008. On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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 6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
28th May, 2008 at 07:55:26pm
On 28th May, 2008 wil_h said:
On 28th May, 2008 Sprocket said:
If you have good grip you have good handling, if you have poor grip you have poor handling Not really, grip and handling at two totally different things. For example I had a Fiat X1-9 that had totally rubbish tyres on, the grip was terrible, but it handled beautifully, perfectly balanced. Changed the tyres and the grip was increased massively, but the balance was gone, it handled worse and was harder to drive and less fun. Same with the TT at one point, you can't get more grip than we had with 7" R25A compound tyres, but it was all over the shop, understeer one minute, overstere the next, no balance whatsoever. I personally think 10s look a bit gay and you compromise the ultimate braking, but if you want the period look there is no other choice. 12s are a great compromise as tyres are cheap and they fit over popper brakes. 13s if done correctly can work very well, but it's a different experience to driving with 10 or 12 and some people just don't get on with it. i'm glad you typed all that and saved me a job, handling is not about grip ,its about the car doing as the driver intends, carl |
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 928 Posts Member #: 326 Post Whore bradford, west yorks |
28th May, 2008 at 08:25:51pm
On 28th May, 2008 wolfie said:
12's are for people with questionable sexuality, has sod all to do with handling hahahahhahaha. 
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
28th May, 2008 at 08:52:21pm
im now at the stage where i dont know weather to go for 10's or 13's, the choice between the two wheels is silly so many good looking wheels but its the tyres that are getting me, there are only 3 good tyres you can get for 10's yoko 032,008 and avon molded slicks for the road with 13's you can get all sorts, dunlop, perelli, yoko's, avon's, toyo's and nitto tyres, im stuck on what to do now =/ Drives
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368 Posts Member #: 806 Senior Member Cirencester, Gloucestershire |
28th May, 2008 at 09:09:59pm
i agree snakeii not much options for 10's. But the ones i have tried a008 are excellent. best thing is to post a pic up of your car and start a poll if you cant decide.
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Forum Mod  5933 Posts Member #: 784 9 times Avon Park Class C winner Milton Keynes |
28th May, 2008 at 09:15:18pm
On 28th May, 2008 Vegard said:
Let me say one word, that sums it up: 911 Thats not a word, its a number Paul I seriously doubt it! |
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28th May, 2008 at 09:15:46pm
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
28th May, 2008 at 09:56:49pm
On 28th May, 2008 paul wiginton said:
On 28th May, 2008 Vegard said:
Let me say one word, that sums it up: 911 Thats not a word, its a number Paul Its two words actualy 'Nine' 'Eleven', infact to be pedantic, its actualy three words
Well, I have never been able to get that far sorting out the handling of ay of my minis, well thats my excuse :$ Carl, I thought as long as it stayed in a straight line in excess of 100mph you werent arsed about handling grip is more important
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
28th May, 2008 at 09:57:34pm
On 28th May, 2008 Bat said:
Hi, A008s are good, annoyed you can't get them for 13s anymore :( Cheers, Gavin :) A008s are pants, or was it my handling 
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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6965 Posts Member #: 507 Fastest A Series Mini in the World leeds/wakefield. |
28th May, 2008 at 10:13:27pm
On 28th May, 2008 Sprocket said:
On 28th May, 2008 paul wiginton said:
On 28th May, 2008 Vegard said:
Let me say one word, that sums it up: 911 Thats not a word, its a number Paul Its two words actualy 'Nine' 'Eleven', infact to be pedantic, its actualy three words
Well, I have never been able to get that far sorting out the handling of ay of my minis, well thats my excuse :$ Carl, I thought as long as it stayed in a straight line in excess of 100mph you werent arsed about handling grip is more important Ah!!! , straigt line stability is another topic when you are accelerating at high velocity,lol. |
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 4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
28th May, 2008 at 10:48:25pm
Not another debate! :) On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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 2909 Posts Member #: 83 Post Whore Glasgow, Scotland |
28th May, 2008 at 11:02:19pm
On 28th May, 2008 Bat said:
Hi, A008s are good, annoyed you can't get them for 13s anymore :( Cheers, Gavin :) for 13's you need 195/45/13 none of this stretched 175 onto 7" wide wheel shite.
but tis al subjective. :) turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)
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28th May, 2008 at 11:19:07pm
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 9326 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
29th May, 2008 at 12:27:58am
On 28th May, 2008 Vegard said:
Let me say one word, that sums it up: 911 What have the twin towers got to do with it? |
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
29th May, 2008 at 05:53:35pm
On 28th May, 2008 Leonard said:
i agree snakeii not much options for 10's. But the ones i have tried a008 are excellent. best thing is to post a pic up of your car and start a poll if you cant decide. I can't notice much difference to be honest between 10's and 12's thats the thing though currently its just a shell :), it will be mk1 front and rear (not a mk1 boot though) mk4 doors in black with spechial arches on it, i want if very low and kinda sleeper with a good whack of power, i have given up on pure reliability as i now have a reliable car lol (106 =/) i want to use the car for fast road track and maybe the odd road rally. i really like the look of the green mini with 13x6's on it from AlexB's riv run pics i think that looks fooking awsome, but i love the look of 10's as well like wolfie's and cars on slotmags Drives
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2909 Posts Member #: 83 Post Whore Glasgow, Scotland |
29th May, 2008 at 07:27:12pm
On 28th May, 2008 Bat said:
Hi, Evo, are they any taller or just a spot wider? Cheers, Gavin :) miby slightly taller(very slightly), but i find them much nicer to drive on 7" wide rims, tramiling/torquesteer and all the usuall wide 13" traits are much reduced. tried both dunlop's and continentals in this size. love em. but going slightly o/t. sorry :) turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)
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